U.S. Rules Apple Illegally Interrogated Staff and Confiscated Union Flyers
1–10 of 327 posts
Re: U.S. Rules Apple Illegally Interrogated Staff and Confiscated Union Flyers
#2The key section of this story is
>The board cannot impose fines or direct punishments against Apple for its violations.
Which makes me wonder why they spent two years working on this investigation.
Re: U.S. Rules Apple Illegally Interrogated Staff and Confiscated Union Flyers
#3The key section of this story is >The board cannot impose fines or direct punishments against Apple for its violations. Which makes me wonder why they spent two years working on this investigation.
Pure speculation—the doj can use that determination against apple in any future proceedings.
It’s like a GAL report for a family law case; independent investigator provides a report which the court will then use to inform it’s decision.
Re: U.S. Rules Apple Illegally Interrogated Staff and Confiscated Union Flyers
#4[flagged]
Re: U.S. Rules Apple Illegally Interrogated Staff and Confiscated Union Flyers
#5The whole idea of the executive branch functioning as the judicial branch is a bananas concept to me.
Re: U.S. Rules Apple Illegally Interrogated Staff and Confiscated Union Flyers
#6The key section of this story is >The board cannot impose fines or direct punishments against Apple for its violations. Which makes me wonder why they spent two years working on this investigation.
They have a lot more power than you might think from that quote.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Labor_Relations_Board...
They can now try Apple in an administrative court, with an 'administrative judge' selected by the agency, then get a (normal) Article 3 court to rubber-stamp their 'order'.
Re: U.S. Rules Apple Illegally Interrogated Staff and Confiscated Union Flyers
#7I don’t understand how so many HNers are anti-union and anti-collective bargaining.
The fact that corporations and billionaires are so anti-union and engage in regular conduct like this demonstrates that unions are pro-worker and ideal for the balance needed in the US and across the globe.
Balance is key between workers and owners. Without it we are left with growing wealth inequality such as…
- ridiculous housing prices
- stagnant wages
- poor public school education
- no retirement benefits
- expensive public universities
Re: U.S. Rules Apple Illegally Interrogated Staff and Confiscated Union Flyers
#8I don’t understand how so many HNers are anti-union and anti-collective bargaining. The fact that corporations and billionaires are so anti-union and engage in regular conduct like this demonstrates that unions are pro-worker and ideal for the balance needed in the US and across the globe. Balance is key between workers and owners. Without it we are left with growing wealth inequality such as… - ridiculous housing pr…
> I don’t understand how so many HNers are anti-union and anti-collective bargaining.
You underestimate the appeal of libertarian propaganda to software engineers. It's got the oversimple but neat models we can't resist, plus our relatively advantaged economic position allows allows us to easily confuse ourselves for capitalists.
Re: U.S. Rules Apple Illegally Interrogated Staff and Confiscated Union Flyers
#9I don’t understand how so many HNers are anti-union and anti-collective bargaining. The fact that corporations and billionaires are so anti-union and engage in regular conduct like this demonstrates that unions are pro-worker and ideal for the balance needed in the US and across the globe. Balance is key between workers and owners. Without it we are left with growing wealth inequality such as… - ridiculous housing pr…
Public school education is poor in part because it’s darn near impossible to fire bad teachers though. And I don’t see how unions would improve housing affordability.
I’m not against unions per se, particularly for positions which are not as lavishly compensated as a typical white collar FAANG employee. I’m merely pointing out that you need to pick better examples. Otherwise you just undermine your own argument.
Re: U.S. Rules Apple Illegally Interrogated Staff and Confiscated Union Flyers
#10The whole idea of the executive branch functioning as the judicial branch is a bananas concept to me.
Instead of the same old talking point, what solution do you propose?
Should the executive branch agency make decisions by fiat, without due process? The use of due process doesn't make them a judiciary; it's just a more fair way to make decisions within their purview.
Should we move every such judgment out of the executive branch's hands? First, they have to be able to make some decisions.
But the heart of this issue is, as is well known: There aren't nearly enough capacity in the judicial branch to handle all that work. It's a trick to prevent lawful and needed regulation from happening by severely cutting their capacity.