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Jolie, the service-oriented programming language

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Re: Jolie, the service-oriented programming language

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Post by misja111 »

rob74 wrote: post #37
afelixdorn wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think I've heard heard of someone named Jolie. According to data from INSEE (France's Census Bureau equivalent), since 1925, only 6 babies were named Jolie in 2011 and then 5 more in 2018. There's a Joline which you'd pronounce pretty much like jolie as the n is very weak, but it's barely more popular. Anyway, jolie does mean pretty, but it's not really a name (11~0 at this scale).

I'm pretty sure you've heard of at least one person named Jolie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelina_Jolie - but of course she's not French, I guess her parents picked the name because it sounded nice, and she thought it sounded so nice that she picked it as her stage name...

Her mother had French-Canadian roots.

Re: Jolie, the service-oriented programming language

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Post by mhackaroons »

croemer wrote: post #11

Was curious at first but got more disappointed the further I read. The docs are overly wordy and in desperate need of editing. It claims it's a language, but it looks more like a DSL on top of Java with non-obvious syntax. It's been around since 2014? Is it used for anything serious? Or just riding the microservices gravy train?

It is used in industry, yes, but is still quite niche. For example I know of journalism tools at media companies, document systems, websites, and a payroll system. It's definitely used as a stable platform in a few places but could use more libraries (things are getting active there though, plus you can reuse anything from the Java world).

The docs really need some love.. : - )

Re: Jolie, the service-oriented programming language

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Post by bmacho »

FredrikMeyer wrote: post #43

I assume this language is named after Jolie in Avatar The Last Airbender? ( https://avatar.fandom.com/wiki/Zhu_Li_Moon - the pronunciation is the same)

Zhu Li eyes are curvy at the top and straight at the bottom (see the image), while the Jolie eye is the exact upside down of it.

Re: Jolie, the service-oriented programming language

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Post by liampulles »

mhackaroons wrote: post #39
manlobster wrote: post #25

I think it would be better if this was a code generator similar to `protoc` for gRPC, so we don't have to learn yet another implementation language.

One of the devs here. We plan to release an updated code generator (jolie2java) that will make it easy to do exactly that. (For Java, but Jolie is already designed to support other langs as well in the future.) Specifically, you'll be able to use Jolie to write (tech-agnostic) APIs and then implement them in Java, using types automatically generated from the Jolie APIs.

This is good to hear - the big problem I have with justifying more niche languages is that I have to ultimately use some niche library at some point that only exists for more established languages.

I hope you guys try to make a first class transpiled language.

Re: Jolie, the service-oriented programming language

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Post by immibis »

DEADMINCE wrote: post #27
immibis wrote: post #22

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Too bad - if that's my email address and you're rejecting it, I'm going to sue you for denying service arbitrarily and win. Not every country is the USA.

The denial of service was not intentional so I doubt you would win anything.

You'd have to fix your code, at least.

Re: Jolie, the service-oriented programming language

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Post by librasteve »

pgbi wrote: post #20
stevenae wrote: post #10

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For those who don't know, jolie means pretty in french, and is a common woman's name.

It does mean pretty but it is not a common french name.

on the basis that there aren’t many kids named Pretty by their English speaker parents, surely it’s more likely that a non-French speaker would name their kid Jolie

Re: Jolie, the service-oriented programming language

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Post by soco »

rob74 wrote: post #37
afelixdorn wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think I've heard heard of someone named Jolie. According to data from INSEE (France's Census Bureau equivalent), since 1925, only 6 babies were named Jolie in 2011 and then 5 more in 2018. There's a Joline which you'd pronounce pretty much like jolie as the n is very weak, but it's barely more popular. Anyway, jolie does mean pretty, but it's not really a name (11~0 at this scale).

I'm pretty sure you've heard of at least one person named Jolie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelina_Jolie - but of course she's not French, I guess her parents picked the name because it sounded nice, and she thought it sounded so nice that she picked it as her stage name...

I suppose the parent commenter mistook Jolie for Julie which is indeed a common French (and not only) name.
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