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Apple introduces M4 chip

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Post by jwells89 »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #56
giancarlostoro wrote: post #42

Call me crazy, but I want all that power in a 7" tablet. I like 7" tablets most because they feel less clunky to carry around and take with you. Same with 13" laptops, I'm willing to sacrifice on screen real estate for saving myself from the back pain of carrying a 15" or larger laptop. Some of this is insanely impressive. I wonder how big the OS ROM (or whatever) is with all these models. For context, even if the en…

> Call me crazy, but I want all that power in a 7" tablet Aren't phones getting close to 7" now? The iPhone pro is 6.2", right?

Biggest difference is aspect ratio. Phones are taller and less pleasant to use in landscape, tablets are more square and better to use in landscape.

You could technically make a more square phone but it wouldn’t be fun to hold in common positions, like up to your ear for a call.

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Post by bitwize »

praseodym wrote: post #10

"With these improvements to the CPU and GPU, M4 maintains Apple silicon’s industry-leading performance per watt. M4 can deliver the same performance as M2 using just half the power. And compared with the latest PC chip in a thin and light laptop, M4 can deliver the same performance using just a fourth of the power." That's an incredible improvement in just a few years. I wonder how much of that is Apple engineering a…

Ultimately, does it matter?

Michelin-starred restaurants not only have top-tier chefs. They have buyers who negotiate with food suppliers to get the best ingredients they can at the lowest prices they can. Having a preferential relationship with a good supplier is as important to the food quality and the health of the business as having a good chef to prepare the dishes.

Apple has top-tier engineering talent but they are also able to negotiate preferential relationships with their suppliers, and it's both those things that make Apple a phenomenal tech company.

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Post by AzzyHN »

stuff4ben wrote: post #97
slashdev wrote: post #72

I've got a Mac Pro paperweight because the motherboard went. It's going to the landfill. I can't even sell it for parts because I can't erase the SSD. If they didn't solder everything to the board you could actually repair it. When I replace my current Dell laptop, it will be with a repairable framework laptop.

Just because you lack the skills to fix it, doesn't mean it's not repairable. People desolder components all the time to fix phones and ipads and laptops. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNKNjy3CoZ4

Any other computer I could simply replace the motherboard with several other compatible motherboards, no soldering or donor board needed.

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Post by jonhohle »

vbezhenar wrote: post #40
ramboldio wrote: post #3

if only macOS would run on iPad..

Please no. I don't want no touch support in macOS.

Why would you need it? Modern iPads have thunderbolt ports (minimally USB-C) and already allow keyboards, network adapters, etc. to be connected. It would be like an iMac without the stand and an option to put it in a keyboard enclosure. Sounds awesome.

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Post by tiffanyh »

Nano-Texture

I really hope this comes to all Apple products soon (iPhones, all iPads, etc).

It's some of the best anti-reflective tech I've seen that keeps color and brightness deep & bright.

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Post by paxys »

freedomben wrote: post #52
dsign wrote: post #24

> M4 makes the new iPad Pro an outrageously powerful device for artificial intelligence. Isn’t there a ToS prohibition about “custom coding” in iOS? Like, the only way you can ever use that hardware directly is for developers who go through Apple Developer Program, which last time I heard was bitter lemon? Tell me if I’m wrong.

Well, this is the heart of the "appliance" model. iPads are appliances . You wouldn't ask about running custom code on your toaster or your blender, so you shouldn't ask about that for your iPad. Also all the common reasons apply: Security and Privacy, Quality Control, Platform Stability and Compatibility, and Integrated User Experience. All of these things are harmed when you are allowed to run custom coding. (discl…

An appliance manufacturer isn't doing an entire press event highlighting how fast the CPU on the appliance is.

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Post by Teever »

dotnet00 wrote: post #159
giancarlostoro wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly though, that's basically every tablet you cant change the ram, you get what you get and thats it. Maybe they should call them by different names like Pro Max for the ones with 16GB in order to make it more palatable? Small psychological hack.

The Samsung tablets at least still retain the SD card slot, so you can focus more on the desired amount of RAM and not worry too much about the built-in storage size.

It would be cool if regulators mandated that companies like Apple are obligated to provide models of devices with SD card slots and a seamless way to integrate this storage into the OS/applications.

That combined with replaceable batteries would go a long way to reduce the amount of ewaste.

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Post by GeekyBear »

praseodym wrote: post #10

"With these improvements to the CPU and GPU, M4 maintains Apple silicon’s industry-leading performance per watt. M4 can deliver the same performance as M2 using just half the power. And compared with the latest PC chip in a thin and light laptop, M4 can deliver the same performance using just a fourth of the power." That's an incredible improvement in just a few years. I wonder how much of that is Apple engineering a…

They don't mention which metric is 50% higher.

However, we have more CPU cores, a newer core design, and a newer process node which would all contribute to improving multicore CPU performance.

Also, Apple is conservative on clock speeds, but those do tend to get bumped up when there is a new process node as well.

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