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Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Re: Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Post by drcongo »

alistairSH wrote: post #29
mikestew wrote: post #2

So, a new M4 chip, up to 10 cores and all kinds of other hotness...yet Apple is still going to treat the iPad with all its big boy computer parts as just a toy computer incapable of compiling code or even giving me a terminal window, let alone run macOS apps. Our house is chocked full of Apple gear, but the idea of spending a cool $1000 on a neutered consumption device gets less appealing with each generation.

the idea of spending a cool $1000 on a neutered consumption device Neutered because you can't side-load apps or use it as a dev machine? That's a pretty limited use-case overall. I have an M1 iPad Pro and it's great for moderate photo editing (Photomator or Adobe) and basic "office" stuff.

I have an M1 iPad Pro too and use it heavily for Logic Pro and occasionally for video editing in Final Cut and Luma. Neither of those things is consumption, and it absolutely flies at both. I suspect OP is somewhat in a bubble.

Re: Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Post by wishfish »

user90131313 wrote: post #3

No ipad mini for years is sad. Why not even bit of upgrade to ipad mini. I don't understand.

I'd love a new OLED mini. I use mine heavily every day. It's big enough that the screen is much more comfortable to my aging eyes than my phone. But it's small enough that I can fit it in my pockets and take it everywhere. In terms of pure form factor, the iPad Mini is probably my favorite computing device. My dream machine would be an Mini which ran MacOS. I know Apple will never make that, but dreams are free.

There probably will be an update to the Mini later this year. Probably not a huge update if the rumors are correct.

Re: Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Post by troupo »

sircastor wrote: post #16
troupo wrote: post #4

So, Apple is doubling down on messy, confusing product lines with no clear distinction or direction other than "must ship something every year"

Apple has a practice in the last decade or so, of bumping its older products into a lower price-point alongside the newer hardware. This is a win for everyone as near as I can tell - The lower priced devices bring more people in. Apple gets to keep using existing tooling for manufacturer. Owners of these products from their initial release can reasonably expect longer support. Also, tangentially and not at all seriou…

For iPad alone there are 6 iPad versions now. And 4 Apple Pencils.

It's already on Performa level.

Similar things happen to iPhone (4 overlapping nearly identical models every year for a total of 7 currently being sold) and Macbooks (any number of models any given year, they are currently selling 5)

Re: Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Post by troupo »

bdcravens wrote: post #30
troupo wrote: post #4

So, Apple is doubling down on messy, confusing product lines with no clear distinction or direction other than "must ship something every year"

They have a "Pro" product across most of their products. If anything, the "Air" nomenclature in some products whereas others have no name indicating it's the lower priced option is what's confusing.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40286789

Re: Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Post by freedomben »

madjam002 wrote: post #8
mikestew wrote: post #2

So, a new M4 chip, up to 10 cores and all kinds of other hotness...yet Apple is still going to treat the iPad with all its big boy computer parts as just a toy computer incapable of compiling code or even giving me a terminal window, let alone run macOS apps. Our house is chocked full of Apple gear, but the idea of spending a cool $1000 on a neutered consumption device gets less appealing with each generation.

I agree, although having bought a Samsung Tab S9 for this reason, it too seems to be very limiting. Samsung Dex is cool and all, but the app selection on Android is worse than iOS and I couldn’t find a way to run Linux since Linux on Dex was killed off.

Man, Dex is in this horrible spot right now where it's so cool, and so close to being the dream, but misses the mark in a couple of spots (like Linux support) and therefore becomes essentially useless (or rather, toy status). If Samsung fixed a few things like that, I'd be buying the crap out of those tablets.

Re: Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Post by etchalon »

stephc_int13 wrote: post #19

The only sustained use of tablets I've seen so far is a "computer" for kids. We have several tablets at home, including a few iPads, never used.

My wife uses hers (a Pro hand-me-down from me) for basically everything except her job, where she's forced to use a PC.

Meanwhile, mine is basically a Plex machine.

Re: Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Post by makeitdouble »

stephc_int13 wrote: post #19

The only sustained use of tablets I've seen so far is a "computer" for kids. We have several tablets at home, including a few iPads, never used.

If the goal is to get a lot of value from the device, I'd recommend getting a keyboard case and keep it attached most of the time (it can still be detached/put behind as needed)

Otherwise if getting out of the Apple ecosystem isn't an issue, going for a Samsung Chromebook or a Surface Pro also opens a lot more use cases, including "serious" work that you won't need to delay because you're not on a "real" computer.

Re: Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Post by Etheryte »

trwhite wrote: post #52

Gah. So it looks and functions more or less like the last one, albeit a bit faster? Consumer tech is so boring - Nobody dares do something even a little different

I wouldn't really agree with this take. There's plenty of companies making quirky products, e.g. look at the ASUS Zenbook Duo, but they don't sell as widely and hence don't get as much media coverage.
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