4P cores only ???.
Apple introduces M4 chip
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#112"With these improvements to the CPU and GPU, M4 maintains Apple silicon’s industry-leading performance per watt. M4 can deliver the same performance as M2 using just half the power. And compared with the latest PC chip in a thin and light laptop, M4 can deliver the same performance using just a fourth of the power." That's an incredible improvement in just a few years. I wonder how much of that is Apple engineering a…
Apple usually massively exaggerates their tech spec comparison - is it REALLY half the power use of all times (so we'll get double the battery life) or is it half the power use in some scenarios (so we'll get like... 15% more battery life total) ?
From their specs page, battery life is unchanged. I think they donated the chip power savings to offset the increased consumption of the tandem OLED
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#113~38 TOPS at fp16 is amazing, if the quoted number if fp16 (ANE is fp16 according to this [1] but that honestly seems like a bad choice when people are going smaller and smaller even at the higher level datacenter cards so not sure why apple would use it instead of fp8 natively)
[1]: https://github.com/hollance/neural-engine/blob/master/docs/1...
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#114Seeing an M series chip launch first in an iPad must be result of some mad supply chain and manufacturing related hangovers from COVID. If the iPad had better software and could be considered a first class productivity machine then it would be less surprising but the one thing no one says about the iPads is “I wish this chip were faster”
To me it just feels like a soft launch.
You probably have people (like myself) trying to keep up with the latest MacBook Air who get fatigued having to get a new laptop every year (I just upgraded to the M3 not too long ago, from the M2, and before that... the M1... is there any reason to? Not really...), so now they are trying to entice people who don't have iPads yet / who are waiting for a reason to do an iPad upgrade.
For $1,300 configured with the keyboard, I have no clue what I'd do with this device. They very deliberately are keeping iPadOS + MacOS separate.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Potentially > 2x greater battery life for the same amount of compute! That is pretty crazy. Or am I missing something?
Comparing the tech specs for the outgoing and new iPad Pro models, that potential is very much not real. Old: 28.65 Wh (11") / 40.88 Wh (13"), up to 10 hours of surfing the web on Wi-Fi or watching video. New: 31.29 Wh (11") / 38.99 Wh (13"), up to 10 hours of surfing the web on Wi-Fi or watching video.
Isn't this weird, a new chip consumes 2 times less power, but the battery life is the same?
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple usually massively exaggerates their tech spec comparison - is it REALLY half the power use of all times (so we'll get double the battery life) or is it half the power use in some scenarios (so we'll get like... 15% more battery life total) ?
Any product that uses this is more than just the chip, so you cannot get a proportional change in battery life.
Sure, but I also remember them comparing M1 chip to 3090 GTX and my MacBook M1 Pro doesn't really run games well.
So I've become really suspicious about any claims about performance done by Apple.
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#117"With these improvements to the CPU and GPU, M4 maintains Apple silicon’s industry-leading performance per watt. M4 can deliver the same performance as M2 using just half the power. And compared with the latest PC chip in a thin and light laptop, M4 can deliver the same performance using just a fourth of the power." That's an incredible improvement in just a few years. I wonder how much of that is Apple engineering a…
And here it is in an OS that can't even max out an M1!
That said, the function keys make me think "and it runs macOS" is coming, and THAT would be extremely compelling.
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#118Call me crazy, but I want all that power in a 7" tablet. I like 7" tablets most because they feel less clunky to carry around and take with you. Same with 13" laptops, I'm willing to sacrifice on screen real estate for saving myself from the back pain of carrying a 15" or larger laptop. Some of this is insanely impressive. I wonder how big the OS ROM (or whatever) is with all these models. For context, even if the en…
> Call me crazy, but I want all that power in a 7" tablet Aren't phones getting close to 7" now? The iPhone pro is 6.2", right?
Yeah, big phones have become the new small tablet.
https://phonesized.com/compare/#2299,156
Take away the bezels on the tablet and there's not a lot of difference.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Potentially > 2x greater battery life for the same amount of compute! That is pretty crazy. Or am I missing something?
Comparing the tech specs for the outgoing and new iPad Pro models, that potential is very much not real. Old: 28.65 Wh (11") / 40.88 Wh (13"), up to 10 hours of surfing the web on Wi-Fi or watching video. New: 31.29 Wh (11") / 38.99 Wh (13"), up to 10 hours of surfing the web on Wi-Fi or watching video.
this