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Caniemail.com – like caniuse but for email content

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Re: Caniemail.com – like caniuse but for email content

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Post by makapuf »

lelanthran wrote: post #124
candiddevmike wrote: post #12

IMO, HTML was the worst thing that ever happened to email. Plain text content is the best content.

> IMO, HTML was the worst thing that ever happened to email. Plain text content is the best content. Your first statement might be true (it's debatable). Your second is definitely false. Lets assume that HTML really was the worst thing that ever happened to email. Plain text content for email is still not the best content. People want to: 1. Click on a link in the email, not fumble with copy and paste on their phone.…

A subset of markdown (since you can use html in markdown) might be a good candidate.

Re: Caniemail.com – like caniuse but for email content

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Post by lelanthran »

evantbyrne wrote: post #51
shortformblog wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Expand your group of people, because you clearly don’t know enough people.

They said many of the people they know only accept plaintext, not all of them. We should interpret each other generously.

> They said many of the people they know only accept plaintext, not all of them.

And parent said "you don't know enough people", not "you don't know any people".

Re: Caniemail.com – like caniuse but for email content

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Post by seper8 »

junon wrote: post #122
morgunkorn wrote: post #108

Hilarious anecdote about this website: the owner once said there are tons of entries in the usage log of people misunderstanding the purpose of the website and inputting celebrities names to try to email them. :D

I wish there was a database of some sort for these sorts of anecdotes!

canianecdote

Re: Caniemail.com – like caniuse but for email content

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Post by sbuk »

yau8edq12i wrote: post #126
throw0101c wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But at this point, it's pretty clear that most non-technical people prefer emails with fancy text and graphics. And what percentage of e-mails from people / human beings have those things? Certainly marketing e-mails have fancy formats, but I've rarely seen any person at a companies I've worked at use any kind of formatting: generally most folks hit reply and start typing with whatever the default is. Hardly any it…

You must be joking. I write and receive emails containing lists, hyperlinks, or blockquotes all the time. I don't need the last flexbox technology, but some formatting is important.

There is always Rich Text…

Re: Caniemail.com – like caniuse but for email content

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Post by ivanjermakov »

lelanthran wrote: post #124
candiddevmike wrote: post #12

IMO, HTML was the worst thing that ever happened to email. Plain text content is the best content.

> IMO, HTML was the worst thing that ever happened to email. Plain text content is the best content. Your first statement might be true (it's debatable). Your second is definitely false. Lets assume that HTML really was the worst thing that ever happened to email. Plain text content for email is still not the best content. People want to: 1. Click on a link in the email, not fumble with copy and paste on their phone.…

Regarding 1. it's up to the client to parse and highlight links in plain text.

Re: Caniemail.com – like caniuse but for email content

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Post by almost »

ryanbigg wrote: post #66

What an excellent resource! (And yes Outlook is a pain and supports so very little!) We've tried building email templates for notifications for our apps where I work, and it has typically been a pain. We have since swapped to using mjml ( https://mjml.io/ ) to build the templates, and it's working wonders. The output seems the be the most compatible with all different devices that we've tested on. The other tool we e…

Thank you so much for linking testi.at. I’ve been looking for an affordable alternative to Litmus!

Re: Caniemail.com – like caniuse but for email content

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Post by tgv »

whoisthemachine wrote: post #4

The two most popular clients, Gmail and Outlook, are ranked at 25 and 41 (the bottom) respectively.

When I look at the features gmail doesn't support, I see things like "display: none", animation, and other kinds of css which arguably shouldn't be part of an email. The basics are there, so that makes high ranking not necessarily a good target.

Re: Caniemail.com – like caniuse but for email content

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Post by lelanthran »

ivanjermakov wrote: post #136
lelanthran wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> IMO, HTML was the worst thing that ever happened to email. Plain text content is the best content. Your first statement might be true (it's debatable). Your second is definitely false. Lets assume that HTML really was the worst thing that ever happened to email. Plain text content for email is still not the best content. People want to: 1. Click on a link in the email, not fumble with copy and paste on their phone.…

Regarding 1. it's up to the client to parse and highlight links in plain text.

> Regarding 1. it's up to the client to parse and highlight links in plain text.

If the client is interpreting the content and then displaying its interpretation to the user, then it's not plain text anymore, is it? It's a format; in this case it's a poorly-specified, ad-hoc format and broken format[1] that is worse than simply having a reduced ad-hoc HTML format.

Just like HTML is "plain text" which is interpreted by the client and that interpretation is displayed to the user.

[1] For example, what if the sender types in `You should go to http://ww.example.com, where "example" must be replaced with your company name`? Suddenly `www.example.com` has an unintended DDoS!

Re: Caniemail.com – like caniuse but for email content

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Post by medstrom »

nox101 wrote: post #123
candiddevmike wrote: post #12

IMO, HTML was the worst thing that ever happened to email. Plain text content is the best content.

This reads me as "I prefer letters" or "I prefer fax" HTML is what non-techies want, or rather, they want to insert pictures and videos directly inline. They want to bold and highlight. They want bullet lists and numbered lists. They want to change fonts, make headlines, etc.. And they want it all to reflow for their device. I do to. I don't want to say in the 70s terminal. I get that lots of techies wish the world w…

"80 column monochrome ASCII only"

Mmm... Paradise

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