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Yeh but a pragmatic decision like a $40pcm box won't go down well with your now very bored team of SREs, DevOps and distributed systems engineers(tm) who demand more playtime with the magic cloud toybox (for a 100DAU internal app).
You guys have teams that decide the infra they run ?
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What do you mean? The big bare metal providers have multiple datacenters with fat pipelines and peering. You can put those geo-separated servers in the same subnet. Europe and US is covered, it looks like Asia a black spot for Hetzner, I will give you that. I doubt that so many business have such size and global reach, that world wide latency is a priority. If it would be, the average site would not connect to 20 dom…
Sure, go build your own less reliable cloud. But don't pretend that single box pricing is comparable to single cloud service as a result.
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> When the price label is affixed by the factory/warehouse then you would have to track where everything is going and be unable to share inventory. Price tags are pretty much universally handled at the stores. There are some goods where the price tag is attached, but that's more the exception and not the rule. This is a solvable problem. So much so that if you've traveled in most nations you'll see that all prices in…
> Price tags are pretty much universally handled at the stores. Advertising isn't. If the same ad is viewable by people in different states, what price are they supposed to put on it? Shouldn't this be the same price as what they show in the stores, or else people will have trouble knowing if the advertising was deceptive? > This is a solvable problem. So much so that if you've traveled in most nations you'll see tha…
Anyway, you can always advertise 9.99 + tax and show the actual price with tax in the store tags.
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So you're saying that they can't implement a hard limit, yet are able to provide hard-limited trials / student credits? It's impossibly hard to believe they couldn't implement the pre-paid model
would you want your services to just turn off when a certain threshold is hit? If so, this problem is solved, set an alarm when cost hits X, use that alarm to trigger a Lambda to turn off the unwanted infra. AWS provides all the tools you need, you just need to use them.
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I suspect they're not getting a dedicated server from Amazon. Anyone doing that is either foolish or is so locked into AWS infrastructure that it cost-wise makes more sense than to expand a network to another provider. Fun times, indeed. What I started doing is just running my own "cloud" out of my house for personal projects. I have all of the things I need. There's some overhead in terms of maintenance and up-front…
> I suspect they're not getting a dedicated server from Amazon. If it's literally called a dedicated server, why would you suspect otherwise? Source: I worked in the core EC2 dataplane for a couple years. PEs and leadership there would not be happy with misleading customers. We constantly thought of the customer experience there.
It didn’t mean ”I suspect that what they are getting from Amazon isn’t a dedicated server”.
Rather it meant ”I suspect that they’re getting a dedicated server from somewhere else that isn’t Amazon”.
The original comment was talking about a dedicated machine for personal projects with a fixed cost of $40/month.
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So you're saying that they can't implement a hard limit, yet are able to provide hard-limited trials / student credits? It's impossibly hard to believe they couldn't implement the pre-paid model
would you want your services to just turn off when a certain threshold is hit? If so, this problem is solved, set an alarm when cost hits X, use that alarm to trigger a Lambda to turn off the unwanted infra. AWS provides all the tools you need, you just need to use them.
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So you're saying that they can't implement a hard limit, yet are able to provide hard-limited trials / student credits? It's impossibly hard to believe they couldn't implement the pre-paid model
would you want your services to just turn off when a certain threshold is hit? If so, this problem is solved, set an alarm when cost hits X, use that alarm to trigger a Lambda to turn off the unwanted infra. AWS provides all the tools you need, you just need to use them.
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Yes. AWS Advance Pay.
I couldn't find a list of "eligible charges", also that doesn't seem to mean advance payment would be the only payment option so I couldn't be billed and the service would just stop.. did I miss anything?
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> If you rent a dedicated server from AWS Who, in their right mind, goes for a bare metal to AWS, when there are so many decent and time-tested options out there?
Data Gravity. If you already have all your data in AWS, and your app that is generating new data is in AWS, it makes a lot of sense to get bare metal in AWS to do batch workloads on that data, so there is no egress fees.
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Yeah, Hetzner has 20 vCPU 64GB RAM i5-13500 servers for $40/mo: https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-ex/ This is ~10x cheaper than the closest AWS option, and without the extra fees. Also of note that Hetzner is profitable, which means AWS has been operating at an insane markup.
Yeh but a pragmatic decision like a $40pcm box won't go down well with your now very bored team of SREs, DevOps and distributed systems engineers(tm) who demand more playtime with the magic cloud toybox (for a 100DAU internal app).