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Should the game be inherently fair? Part of the fun is rewarding exploration over time as a life-long pokemon trainer trying to catch them all. You gotta go to all the regions to accomplish that. Maybe it'll take a long time!
> Should the game be inherently fair? No, but the fairness should be based on skills and engagement, not the size of your wallet.
I gotta give props to the players for their clever hacks. But also this brings up a good point -- the game is inherently unfair to people who don't have the means to travel. Someone in the middle of the country can't legitimately travel to a beach area. And there are some Pokemon that are restricted to a particular continent. Which means you either have to be rich or have a rich friend who can go to those places and…
But this guy has a pilot license, so he just flies a sports plane over the island to claim it just after it closed.
There's travel privilege, and then there's renting an actual plane for a game.
There are devices that you can buy that you can connect to your phone and will auto catch pokemon for you. Between auto catchers and changing map data, what is the point of "playing" the game?
It's very nakedly a skinner box game. The participants are not gamers, they are addicts and victims.
Pokemon Go is basically a world-scale slot machine, and Niantic's entire business model revolves around preying on users' addictions to steer them into in-game purchases.
They are absolutely aware that a huge number of theirs users are addicted to the game, and they employ as many dark patterns as possible to extract every last dollar from these people.
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Should the game be inherently fair? Part of the fun is rewarding exploration over time as a life-long pokemon trainer trying to catch them all. You gotta go to all the regions to accomplish that. Maybe it'll take a long time!
It depends on how the game is setup. If it's "almost possible" to get them all, then it kind of feels like you have to get them all, even if that involves some serious work. This can be compounded if certain "best of breed" types can only be obtained in certain areas, or at certain times. However, if it's setup so that it's basically impossible to get them all, but you can get many or any, then it doesn't feel as bad…
I gotta give props to the players for their clever hacks. But also this brings up a good point -- the game is inherently unfair to people who don't have the means to travel. Someone in the middle of the country can't legitimately travel to a beach area. And there are some Pokemon that are restricted to a particular continent. Which means you either have to be rich or have a rich friend who can go to those places and…
After all it is just a game, it's not an injustice for a game to not be fair.
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It's very nakedly a skinner box game. The participants are not gamers, they are addicts and victims.
What are they addicted to, controlling a gym near their home?
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It's very nakedly a skinner box game. The participants are not gamers, they are addicts and victims.
> The participants are not gamers, they are addicts and victims. Where does that line get drawn?
Basically, when a "pay to win" option comes up.
I gotta give props to the players for their clever hacks. But also this brings up a good point -- the game is inherently unfair to people who don't have the means to travel. Someone in the middle of the country can't legitimately travel to a beach area. And there are some Pokemon that are restricted to a particular continent. Which means you either have to be rich or have a rich friend who can go to those places and…
Should the game be inherently fair? Part of the fun is rewarding exploration over time as a life-long pokemon trainer trying to catch them all. You gotta go to all the regions to accomplish that. Maybe it'll take a long time!
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What are they addicted to, controlling a gym near their home?
Probably some are, but the addictive aspect is more in the collecting of rare tokens with specific aspect. It requires a staggering amount of grinding to get these prized tokens, which forces players to spend an inordinate amount of time and constantly face prompts where they can pay to increase the chances of getting something. The chance aspect is critical, as the addicts aren't paying for a specific result but at…
Once you have collected a rare token with specific aspect, then what? Can you show it off to your peers, sell it, trade it, win battles easier?
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Probably some are, but the addictive aspect is more in the collecting of rare tokens with specific aspect. It requires a staggering amount of grinding to get these prized tokens, which forces players to spend an inordinate amount of time and constantly face prompts where they can pay to increase the chances of getting something. The chance aspect is critical, as the addicts aren't paying for a specific result but at…
> Probably some are, but the addictive aspect is more in the collecting of rare tokens with specific aspect. Once you have collected a rare token with specific aspect, then what? Can you show it off to your peers, sell it, trade it, win battles easier?