You all are so cute when you think this kind of corruption is limited to Vape. Or just commercial interests in general.
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#182Professors are the worst scum. These are the same people who'd become expert witnesses for the tobacco industry in the 60's, advocating risky financial instruments in 2000s, requiring DEI statements in 2010s, and generally fighting like dogs over morsels of defense funding.
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#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
> then went ahead and legalized marijuana so now kids who would never have smoked cigarettes ...Except marijuana absolutely isn't legalized, so this is completely incorrect. And in the minority of states that currently ignore the illegality of marijuana, they impose the same age restrictions as cigarettes.
> Except marijuana absolutely isn't legalized I don't know where you live, but I buy my marijuana from a government store. There exist other countries.
Yeah, but we know where rayiner lives -- the US -- where it is not legalized. So we can refute his specific claim.
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We socialized people to realize smoking is dirty, then went ahead and legalized marijuana so now kids who would never have smoked cigarettes are filling their lungs with tar: https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/14/health/marijuana-smoke-wellne... . At least cigarettes made people skinny and hot.
Curious, what makes having cigarettes have low body fat? or in general they get undernourished?
Nicotine acts as stimulate and appetite suppressant to some people.
But since cigarettes also accelerate aging, you don't stay "hot" for too long.
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#185Re: NYU professors who defended vaping didn't disclose ties to Juul
#186Earlier quoted context omitted.
> then went ahead and legalized marijuana so now kids who would never have smoked cigarettes ...Except marijuana absolutely isn't legalized, so this is completely incorrect. And in the minority of states that currently ignore the illegality of marijuana, they impose the same age restrictions as cigarettes.
Based on the recent decision by the DEA to move marijuana from schedule 1 to schedule 3, that could be changing (insofar as legalization goes anyways)
Schedule 3 is a lower standard for researchers and prescribers but it does not fundamentally change the legal status of recreational, self-elected use. Other class 3 drugs include e.g., ketamine, a weird amphetamine (benzphetamine), and some drugs with the opioid codeine. None of these are legalized for recreational use. And my impression is that sentencing guidelines for marijuana just specify it by name rather than relying on its former schedule 1 status. It's a move in the right direction, but only barely.
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#187I just want my mango pods back... Seems really arbitrary to ban things on a flavor by flavor basis. I don't see anybody banning fruity flavored vodka.
I just get the tobacco flavored pods, use them up, and refill with various nicotine salt liquids. I get ten to twenty refills out of a cartridge. Haven't found a juice that matches the OG mango pods but I have a few in rotation that I like. I do miss the brief Cambrian explosion in third-party pods, before the FDA decided that "the youf" should switch to disposables, but at this point I'm just grateful that Juul is s…
It never occurred to me that you could refill spent pods, thats awesome I'll have to check that out. Any specific recommendations for scratching the OG mango itch? I've been wanting to switch to an even lower potency too, like 1%
I'm also grateful juul is still around at all, I haven't found any other device with such a nice small and flat form factor. Everything else bulges out of my pockets
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I don’t see the problem with being addicted to pure nicotine. It’s completely safe, causes next to no health issues, is not carcinogenic, actually has health benefits for acuity and long term memory. Addiction in itself is not a bad thing.
I think you mean “dependency” and not “addiction.” Addiction is by definition a bad thing: “Addiction is a neuropsychological disorder characterized by a persistent and intense urge to use a drug or engage in a behaviour that produces natural reward, despite substantial harm and other negative consequences. ” You’re right about nicotine though. It’s the delivery that’s the problem, in addition to the addictive proper…
That’s my point. A nicotine addiction does not satisfy the “despite substantial harm and other negative consequences” corollary. Using a high quality vape pen and unflavored vegetable glycerine as the base, the delivery issue is somewhat resolved.
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#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
The grandparent commenter was trying to blame current societal ills on the legality of marijuana and the legal availability to children, both of which are plainly incorrect, so any future legality cannot have had any bearing due to the causal nature of the universe. And even if it becomes legal someday, all current precedents involve treating marijuna like cigarettes as far as age restrictions go.
> The grandparent commenter was trying to blame current societal ills on the legality of marijuana and the legal availability to children I'm blaming marijuana legalization for young people smoking marijuana, when they wouldn't smoke cigarettes. The fact that marijuana isn't legal in all states, or is illegal at the federal level, is immaterial to my point. In the places where my family and I live (D.C. and Oregon),…
> I'm blaming marijuana legalization for young people smoking marijuana, when they wouldn't smoke cigarettes.
Young people who would never smoke cigarettes smoking marijuana was already happening the 2000s, long before any state approached legalization.
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#190Juul is the perfect example that our systems just don't work for the people or the common good by default. Any device that delivers such a highly addictive compound should have to been blocked by default until it was allowed. It was done the other way around.
But it replaced cigarettes, which are much worse by every metric.