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Re: NYU professors who defended vaping didn't disclose ties to Juul

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It really is amazing. We were thiiiiiiis close to having a generation that wasn't addicted to nicotine for the first time in hundreds of years (like, since trade between North America and Europe really became a thing) and these guys pulled this thumb drive that tastes like cotton candy out of nowhere and every young person is just jonesing . And the regulatory/public opinion environment isn't what it was in the 80s a…

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Re: NYU professors who defended vaping didn't disclose ties to Juul

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Is the scientific method, or more generally modern science and how it is distributed to those outside the field, so poorly designed that not disclosing ties invalidates what was communicated? If so, sounds like we shouldn't be relying on such a method as a source of truth for policy making, or at least treating it with much more skepticism. Are we perhaps using science to inform policy makers before there are multipl…

> Is the scientific method, or more generally modern science and how it is distributed to those outside the field, so poorly designed that not disclosing ties invalidates what was communicated?

Basically, yeah. There's the famous replication crisis, and of course p-hacking. There's also the forking garden problem, e.g. in: http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~gelman/research/unpublished/p_...

Put it like this: If you're motivated to reach a certain conclusion in the soft sciences, odds are that you're going to find it. (But not that other researchers who come after you will find the same thing.)

Re: NYU professors who defended vaping didn't disclose ties to Juul

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It really is amazing. We were thiiiiiiis close to having a generation that wasn't addicted to nicotine for the first time in hundreds of years (like, since trade between North America and Europe really became a thing) and these guys pulled this thumb drive that tastes like cotton candy out of nowhere and every young person is just jonesing . And the regulatory/public opinion environment isn't what it was in the 80s a…

But what’s so bad about nicotine? Is it any worse than caffeine?

I’m genuinely curious, because isn’t tar and carbon monoxide the dangerous byproduct of smoking, not the nicotine?

Re: NYU professors who defended vaping didn't disclose ties to Juul

#27

It really is amazing. We were thiiiiiiis close to having a generation that wasn't addicted to nicotine for the first time in hundreds of years (like, since trade between North America and Europe really became a thing) and these guys pulled this thumb drive that tastes like cotton candy out of nowhere and every young person is just jonesing . And the regulatory/public opinion environment isn't what it was in the 80s a…

But what’s so bad about nicotine? Is it any worse than caffeine? I’m genuinely curious, because isn’t tar and carbon monoxide the dangerous byproduct of smoking, not the nicotine?

Nicotine addiction is chronic and very hard to break. You can reset caffeine tolerance and dependence in 10 days.

Re: NYU professors who defended vaping didn't disclose ties to Juul

#28

It really is amazing. We were thiiiiiiis close to having a generation that wasn't addicted to nicotine for the first time in hundreds of years (like, since trade between North America and Europe really became a thing) and these guys pulled this thumb drive that tastes like cotton candy out of nowhere and every young person is just jonesing . And the regulatory/public opinion environment isn't what it was in the 80s a…

But what’s so bad about nicotine? Is it any worse than caffeine? I’m genuinely curious, because isn’t tar and carbon monoxide the dangerous byproduct of smoking, not the nicotine?

Yes, nicotine is much worse than caffeine for your heart.

Re: NYU professors who defended vaping didn't disclose ties to Juul

#29
In 2019, a list of Juul's sockpuppets was released. It was part of a large document release, tied to a NC AG lawsuit & settlement.

It includes David Abrams and Ray Niaura, along with a string of professors and health professionals. Among Juul's supporters are a well-placed UK health official.

ref:https://tobaccowatch.seatca.org/index.php/2024/04/11/industr...

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