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They can ban whatever they want, after all its a democracy only in name. I'd be far more concerned about Israel using its direct influence or its proxies to ban TikTok in the United States.

If you want to play conspiracy theorist, the correct conspiracy is that Mark Zuckerberg is responsible for the TikTok ban bill, given that he was lobbying for it.

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After rt.com et al were blocked in the EU they also kept working for a few more week/months before I had to use a mirror/VPN to read the new paper of "the enemy". Side note: I though being able to read the news of the enemy was testimony to the moral high ground of a "modern free and democratic society". No more moral high ground if you are trying to shape the perception of the public with censorship.

Why the scare quotes you put around “the enemy“?

The state's enemy isn't my enemy. Consider the case of Edward Snowden. Journalism is still valuable even if you disagree with the person's motives or aims.

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It's a bit ironic how we are constantly reminded that china isn't a democracy because they have censorship, while we are free and democratic and don't have censorship (except we do). Italy is passing laws to be able to block websites within 30 minutes, without any oversight from any judge. (more details here, link in italian https://stop-piracy-shield.it/ )

> china isn't a democracy because they have censorship, What the fuck even is this? That's like saying Pizza Hut isn't a hamburger shop because they don't sell french fries. They're not, but that's not the reason!

A democracy is dependent on people having access to information. Free information is a direct requirement of any democracy. It just isn't the only requirement of course.

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Any regime that seeks to suppress the media can't be up to any good, IMO.

EU has a ban on RT on its books today, nearly every single democratic country is currently or has previously censored media. Without judging this specific action, saying that Israel is bad for doing something that every other country does or has done makes it seem like your problem is not really with what is being done, but your problem is with Israel. This may not be the case, you may not be aware that nearly every…

What you're missing is that Israel is banning foreign reporters from Gaza. That's why there are none there.

It also number 1 reporter killing country in the world. Killed more than 100 in the last 365 days. Does EU kill reporters?

So stop your false comparisons.

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US law is the same: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2339B

EU is the same: https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/infographics/terrorist-co...

UK is the same: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/stricter-laws-to-tackle-t...

Why would it be surprising that Israel should follow the example of the rest of the Western world?

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Do you have examples for Europe blocking Russia? Because all I have seen is DNS providers omitting certain sites (i.e RT), but their apps still work (plus URLs when using other DNS). An nothing of that coming from the nation states as all seems to be due to the activities of private companies doing these things.

rt.com and their twitter are blocked. How are you not aware of this? It's been a few years already. The EU ruled on this. https://paste.pics/4b60ebef97d3b7fbb6aba74637c2e818 https://paste.pics/0cb2ae98754165dad5cf086e75c4cc31

I am very much aware of this but as I wrote, I do not consider this blocked as the servers are very much reachable and what you show is that the DNS does not resolve. That is not what I consider blocked by the state. And yes, here in Sweden, rt.com resolves just fine everywhere. That's why I was wondering about specific European legislation as it seemed to be 'only' private companies doing their part.

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Armando Iannucci's career has twice now been upstaged by the increasing ridiculousness of reality in politics. One of the reasons he says he stopped making his first series, The Thick of It, was that UK politicians became parodies of themselves. There was nothing left to make fun of. Then the same thing happened to his American incarnation, Veep.

He's not wrong. This is a real Police and Crimes Commissioner and is not a character from the Thick of It: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xlcWVXHv_As

Ha ha! Wow.
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