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Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices

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Post by vr46 »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #725
guappa wrote: post #655

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It's a bit ironic how we are constantly reminded that china isn't a democracy because they have censorship, while we are free and democratic and don't have censorship (except we do). Italy is passing laws to be able to block websites within 30 minutes, without any oversight from any judge. (more details here, link in italian https://stop-piracy-shield.it/ )

In Germany they can't publicly gather to protest Israel's actions either, not legally anyway. https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/10/26/complete-censo...

I would likely be arrested if I wore my UK-created anti-fascist Football Fans Against Apartheid/Free Palestine pin, so it’s going into a drawer. Zionism has drowned all voices, my Jewish friends are being harassed for dissent too.

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Post by woodpanel »

siva7 wrote: post #13

I've recently visited my parents in europe. I have no affiliations with Israel or Jews. My parents watched a local Al-Jazeera channel in their mother tongue since Qatar seems to strategically deploy satellite offices of Al-Jazeera in different countries, even european. Boy was i shocked at the level of propaganda from this channel. Basically all day in big letters "genocide in gaza" with anti-jewish paroles. I can un…

You really got to hand it to the Royal Family of Qatar - they are geopolitical Warren Buffets.

The Arab Spring and all the bad things that ensued from it was effectively a giant geopolitical windfall for the Qatari royal family and their investments in founding that broadcaster.

They (almost) changed the entire geopolitical landscape of the Arab world to their benefit. Installing a caliphate here, toppling a major power like Egypt there. They even forced Saudi Arabia into concessions.

All of that, like the NATO-buffoons sending fighter jets into Libya because the Qataris social-engineered the Western public into demanding it, is an amazing show of political skills.

Gee, the poor Europeans till this day don't even realize how much their "refugee-crisis" has been instigated as a "weapon of mass migration" by the Qataris using their set of tools of which Al Jazeera is one.

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Post by sweetheart »

gravescale wrote: post #744
throwup238 wrote: post #416

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Armando Iannucci's career has twice now been upstaged by the increasing ridiculousness of reality in politics. One of the reasons he says he stopped making his first series, The Thick of It, was that UK politicians became parodies of themselves. There was nothing left to make fun of. Then the same thing happened to his American incarnation, Veep.

He's not wrong. This is a real Police and Crimes Commissioner and is not a character from the Thick of It: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xlcWVXHv_As

I genuinely cannot tell if this is real still. Like, I want to believe you, but this person is basically doing the best Michael Scott impersonation I’ve ever seen.

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Post by nla »

runarberg wrote: post #541
ipaddr wrote: post #532

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To parse your statement we need to understand what genocide means to you. For most it means the systemic killing of every person of a certain genetic identity. Is that what you believe is happening or something else? If genocide is illegal than covering up would be the only logical move. Therefore it would be normal.

Genocide has a precise definition and has been codified in international law. I believe this internationally recognized definition mirrors what most people mean when they use the term. It does not necessitate the systemic killing of every person of a certain genetic identity. Genocide is outlined in the Genocide convention from 1948[1]. It is short so I’ll give you the whole definition here: > In the present Conventi…

Debunked.

https://www.axios.com/2024/04/09/israel-genocide-gaza-us-aus...

And this was widely reported by the MSM.

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Post by drdrek »

farseer wrote: post #717
kmeisthax wrote: post #653

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If you want to play conspiracy theorist, the correct conspiracy is that Mark Zuckerberg is responsible for the TikTok ban bill, given that he was lobbying for it.

Your conspiracy theory can co-exist with mine :) I believe multiple parties want TikTok banned for their own reasons. However I am hearing more and more people mention TikTok and Israel together inside congressional circles than mentions of "TikTok and China". Here is an example: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic...

How have you heard more about TikTok and Israel than TikTok and china? How is that possible??

India banned TikTok in 2020 accusing Chinese influence, are they time travelers?

Did israel convince all of these countries to ban TikTok? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_TikTok Wow the Jewish World Domination Forum is really pushing its weight around lately.

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Post by megous »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #247
NewJazz wrote: post #185

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I am just pointing out that Israel isn't planning on agreeing to a ceasefire anytime soon. They'll probably need to have new elections.

> Israel isn't planning on agreeing to a ceasefire anytime soon A permanent one, no. But that wasn't ever on the table. A multi-week ceasefire is absolutely still on the table in exchange for hostages.

Of course it was, that's what Hamas always told it wanted.

Unless by negotiation table you mean "whatever Israel wants and nothing else".

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Post by throwawayqqq11 »

Ma8ee wrote: post #748
cies wrote: post #682

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After rt.com et al were blocked in the EU they also kept working for a few more week/months before I had to use a mirror/VPN to read the new paper of "the enemy". Side note: I though being able to read the news of the enemy was testimony to the moral high ground of a "modern free and democratic society". No more moral high ground if you are trying to shape the perception of the public with censorship.

Why the scare quotes you put around “the enemy“?

Because it is a pejorative generalization. Some people are susceptible to labels like "the migrants" and short circuit their reasoning when confronted with eg. articles from RT or aljazeera "must be fictious enemy propanda".

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Post by raxxorraxor »

mrtksn wrote: post #755
raxxorraxor wrote: post #737

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It isn't and shouldn't be different in war time either. If you allow this exception, you will just always be at war. Censorship for security reasons isn't a new concept.

Not at all, you can't be at war all the time as people and ammo is limited resource. Just stick tight to definitions and observe for technicality BS. I.e. don't take "War on drugs" as a war, don't assume you are at war when the countries no longer fight but technically never signed a peace agreement etc. I think I made it pretty clear that the exception for censorship is only when people are actively killing each oth…

Not the war on drugs, but certainly the "war on terror". This is not clinging to definitions, it is political reality that such measures would also be undertaken in peace time, any justification would suffice. Who do you believe would draw the line here anyway?

Also, especially in times of war, there is a heightened interest of people getting news and independent reporting. Any other news isn't worth the read.

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