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Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices

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Re: Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices

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Post by austin-cheney »

avip wrote: post #312
whatshisface wrote: post #302

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> Why would you allow that to continue in your country? We have a constitution that protects our rights, and among them a right to make up our minds on the basis of an uncensored discourse. That's the other, implicit half of the first amendment: the right to listen to what others want to tell you.

Can you openly call for the murder of in the US under the protection of the first amendment ?

That’s complicated. The US has criminal and civil law. With regards to criminal law in terms of expression and liberties there are very few things you cannot do. The default is to lean towards liberty always.

In terms of civil law you can generally sue anyone for anything at anytime unless there is existing law or contracts halting further civil actions.

Re: Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices

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Post by xdennis »

neves wrote: post #327
mupuff1234 wrote: post #308

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I wouldn't say it's validating, just not necessarily invalidating. Regardless, a news organizing funded by a monarchy not exactly known for its human and civilian rights mostly like has an agenda beyond "honest journalism".

Their journalist were trained at BBC. It is funny that BBC exactly fits your definition :-) BTW both have very high standards and make excellent journalism. I'd like to see examples of bad Al Jazeera journalism instead of just attacks to Qatar monarchy.

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Re: Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices

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Post by austin-cheney »

cjk2 wrote: post #176

Just a point about Al Jazeera that is worth mentioning. There are two Al Jazeeras. One which is presented to Western audiences and one which is presented to Middle-Eastern audiences. The media and articles are politically aligned in each region. Don't assume what you read in the US/UK/wherever is the same as over there. In the case of Israel, the Middle-Eastern unit were literally showing videos demanding further upr…

> Why would you allow that to continue in your country?

If you value liberty or democracy the only valid question is: why wouldn’t you?

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Post by [deleted] »

VelesDude wrote: post #485
tialaramex wrote: post #466

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Iannucci's Death of Stalin has the advantage that it's all history - it can't become more ridiculous after he made the movie because it's in the past. But of course the reality is more or less as absurd as the movie, although different in important ways. (Lots of the timing is completely wrong, events are re-arranged, people are shuffled about so that fewer actors play more important roles) but it does have the advan…

I really appreciate works like Death of Stalin that are more than happy to move things around in the name of entertainment. It isn't a documentary so it has the freedom to get creative and hit the key notes rather than pure accuracy. They also just said "No need to have Russian accents, the audience is smart enough to just go with what you have."

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Re: Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices

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Post by wslh »

NewJazz wrote: post #185
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #156

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Israel's war aims have transparently been about both returning the hostages and removing Hamas from power.

I am just pointing out that Israel isn't planning on agreeing to a ceasefire anytime soon. They'll probably need to have new elections.

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Post by jachee »

avip wrote: post #312
whatshisface wrote: post #302

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why would you allow that to continue in your country? We have a constitution that protects our rights, and among them a right to make up our minds on the basis of an uncensored discourse. That's the other, implicit half of the first amendment: the right to listen to what others want to tell you.

Can you openly call for the murder of in the US under the protection of the first amendment ?

I mean, that’s what the KKK does.

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Post by staunton »

wahnfrieden wrote: post #477
mupuff1234 wrote: post #346

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The BBC doesn't fit my definition as it's run by a democracy with a high degree of human rights and civilian freedoms. And journalism can be technically right while still showing a very one sided view. Not that I'm pro ban, just saying that there's a good reason to be vigilant when it comes to their news coverage and make sure it's not you're only source.

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What is "Zaka" and what has BBC been saying? Have a link to what you mean?

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Post by wslh »

LocalH wrote: post #27
stoperaticless wrote: post #22

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Tic toc was recently banned in US.

Tik Tok isn't a news agency

Why not? Nowadays Tik Tok, Instagram, and X/Twitter have more influence than New York Times, at least for the younger generations.

The medium is the message...

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Post by NewJazz »

wslh wrote: post #495
NewJazz wrote: post #185

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I am just pointing out that Israel isn't planning on agreeing to a ceasefire anytime soon. They'll probably need to have new elections.

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What does that have to do with my comment?

BTW October 7th is decidedly not the root of this war, just a dark event in a series of atrocities that have occurred during the last 70+ years.

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Post by jmprspret »

cjk2 wrote: post #176

Just a point about Al Jazeera that is worth mentioning. There are two Al Jazeeras. One which is presented to Western audiences and one which is presented to Middle-Eastern audiences. The media and articles are politically aligned in each region. Don't assume what you read in the US/UK/wherever is the same as over there. In the case of Israel, the Middle-Eastern unit were literally showing videos demanding further upr…

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