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Recruiters are going analog to fight the AI application overload

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Re: Recruiters are going analog to fight the AI application overload

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Post by mistrial9 »

datadrivenangel wrote: post #3

To summarize the article though: Online hiring continues to be overwhelmed by huge numbers of low quality applications, now with some extra AI tools that make it easier to lie about your experience. Same issue as before, now wrapped up in OpenAI API calls.

you forgot the second part -- a rush by industry management to open the gates to low-skill people for lower pay, while specifically and exactly firing or replacing more experienced people who ask for higher compensation and employee rights (for example working parents or a slower pace over a long time)

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

Simulacra wrote: post #5

Serves them right. Employers have been using AI and algorithms to weed out resumes/applications for years. To the point that the only way to get seen by an actual human is the game the system.

Hard agree. It’s infuriating that automation is continually added to human centric processes that it is ill-suited and anti-social to be used in, very much including most LLM applications, always in the name of more bloody cost-cutting that almost never leads to lower prices for consumers, just more yachts for the executive class.

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Post by mead5432 »

My partner has been searching for an SDE job for 8 months and recently received an email requesting her to do a recruiter screen. She responded and got a call instantly where the “recruiter was a text-to-speech AI.

Presumably the entire process was automated; I’m assuming if they’re using text-to-speech, the selection and initial email was all AI.

It’s an arms race on both sides.

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Post by Euphorbium »

neilv wrote: post #7

> That came after LinkedIn began rolling out a new set of generative AI tools for recruiters to source candidates in October. With the sourcing tool, recruiters can search a phrase like “I want to hire engineers in Texas,” and profiles of people that may meet those criteria appear, as do other specific skills that may be related to the role. They can also send messages written with generative AI and set automatic fol…

Go rockclimbing and meet cto’s there.

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Post by [deleted] »

mead5432 wrote: post #14

My partner has been searching for an SDE job for 8 months and recently received an email requesting her to do a recruiter screen. She responded and got a call instantly where the “recruiter was a text-to-speech AI. Presumably the entire process was automated; I’m assuming if they’re using text-to-speech, the selection and initial email was all AI. It’s an arms race on both sides.

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Post by xw38011 »

neilv wrote: post #7

> That came after LinkedIn began rolling out a new set of generative AI tools for recruiters to source candidates in October. With the sourcing tool, recruiters can search a phrase like “I want to hire engineers in Texas,” and profiles of people that may meet those criteria appear, as do other specific skills that may be related to the role. They can also send messages written with generative AI and set automatic fol…

> What are better alternatives to LinkedIn, for people who want to get that rare serendipitous message from a recruiter?

The only one I know of is to have a personal social network of people who know you and are directly familiar with your work. Every rare serendipitous message from a recruiter I've received resulted from a referral from someone I directly knew.

But rare is probably the correct qualifier. I have 25 years experience, I've received four, followed up on two and only one resulted in me changing jobs. None came before I had 10 years of experience. YMMV

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Post by joshstrange »

neilv wrote: post #7

> That came after LinkedIn began rolling out a new set of generative AI tools for recruiters to source candidates in October. With the sourcing tool, recruiters can search a phrase like “I want to hire engineers in Texas,” and profiles of people that may meet those criteria appear, as do other specific skills that may be related to the role. They can also send messages written with generative AI and set automatic fol…

Hacker News monthly threads for “Who wants to be hired” and “Who is hiring”. That’s how I got hired for my current job (2019) and that’s how I’m hiring currently.

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Post by zarzavat »

kthejoker2 wrote: post #13

Fo any other professions have thse challenges? Our lack of basic professional certifications has just led to nonsense in every corner of the hiring and job seeking process.

There are professional certifications they are just useless. The same goes for university degrees. The field moves too fast for certification to have any value. Perhaps if you do something very “enterprise” it might be useful.

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Post by ohthatsnotright »

joshstrange wrote: post #18
neilv wrote: post #7

> That came after LinkedIn began rolling out a new set of generative AI tools for recruiters to source candidates in October. With the sourcing tool, recruiters can search a phrase like “I want to hire engineers in Texas,” and profiles of people that may meet those criteria appear, as do other specific skills that may be related to the role. They can also send messages written with generative AI and set automatic fol…

Hacker News monthly threads for “Who wants to be hired” and “Who is hiring”. That’s how I got hired for my current job (2019) and that’s how I’m hiring currently.

All I got from that was some spam and "defi" recruiting for whatever Ponzi scheme the cryptocoin community is hot on right now.
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