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Re: Show HN: BandMatch – “Tinder” but for finding musicians to create bands/collab

#212

What does swiping left mean? I may not want to collab with someone for a particular project but that doesn’t mean I never want to see their profile again. Also swiping left feels like rejecting them. What if I’m just browsing the artists? I don’t want to be rejecting while I’m browsing options. Also why am I limited to my area? I want to be able to collaborate digitally. I don’t need to be in close proximity to do th…

This is the same problem that every modern dating site seems to have after they copied Tinder. Swipe left - I never want to see this person again! Swipe right - I must contact this person right now! What happened to the idea of curating a list of interesting people who I may or may not want to meet right this moment, but I would like to make a list that I can refer to later? Just look at OkCupid for what a disaster t…

I would love a "maybe" button for apps like this. Apartment List is the only one I've seen with this option, and it's useful for all the reasons you've described. Glad to know I'm not the only one with this frustration.

Re: Show HN: BandMatch – “Tinder” but for finding musicians to create bands/collab

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Please provide desktop or web app. Not everyone uses iOS or Android devices.

I'm not disagreeing; they should do this.

But I would like to point out that these days, releasing an app as mobile-only really doesn't disenfranchise that many people.

• iOS apps can be installed and used pretty transparently on Apple Silicon Macs;

• and Android apps can likewise be installed and used pretty transparently on both Windows 11 (via Windows Subsystem for Android) and on ChromeOS.

So by choosing to release an app as mobile-only, you're "only" excluding people without (even a very old!) smartphone, who are also:

• people with only Intel Macs;

• people with only Windows PCs, who are stuck on a previous version of Windows;

• or Linux users.

That's... not too many people at this point. (And most of them live so far behind the curve that they wouldn't be interested in installing some bleeding-edge mobile app anyway.)

Re: Show HN: BandMatch – “Tinder” but for finding musicians to create bands/collab

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post #213
post #211

Please provide desktop or web app. Not everyone uses iOS or Android devices.

I'm not disagreeing; they should do this. But I would like to point out that these days, releasing an app as mobile-only really doesn't disenfranchise that many people. • iOS apps can be installed and used pretty transparently on Apple Silicon Macs; • and Android apps can likewise be installed and used pretty transparently on both Windows 11 (via Windows Subsystem for Android) and on ChromeOS. So by choosing to relea…

And, separate point, tangent to this:

I would guess that probably most people in that state of "no smartphone and no modern Windows/macOS/ChromeOS device", who would also actually care about installing some random bleeding-edge app, are people who are in that state by choice — i.e. they're not unable, but rather unwilling to use a mobile app, due to being extremely concerned with their privacy/anonymity.

And being that kind of person, is actually kind of incompatible with being a "member in good standing" of a matchmaking service (whether the matchmaking is for dating; for getting a band together; for finding a babysitter; for renting a condo; etc.)

Matchmaking apps only "work" insofar as they 1. can prevent catfishing, 2. can allow users to permanently block others who are harassing them, and 3. can allow users to report spammers/scammers/etc in such a way that a bad actor will be permanently removed from the platform altogether. Matchmaking apps that don't make these guarantees, end up being negative-experience generators and go down in bad-PR flames.

With the rise of botnets that use proxy IP addresses to register massive numbers of accounts on such services for nefarious purposes, the only way matchmaking services have been able to survive, is to require the user to at least complete initial registration through a device that can give a remote attestation that the user is not in ultimate control of the device — i.e. the device has a Trusted Computing Base and has not been rooted — and so the app is not being tampered with or fed false device metrics. (See also: browser integrity.)

Wanting to have absolute privacy/anonymity, is fundamentally incompatible with using a device that's able to make such guarantees.

Re: Show HN: BandMatch – “Tinder” but for finding musicians to create bands/collab

#218

Make sure you check the name - there is a website called bandmatch already, which is a somewhat established platform (granted, it's I think only for DACH meaning: Switzerland (primarily), Austria, Germany, and is a traditional blackboard style site, but naming conflicts are never fun). Unless your affiliated with them of course: https://www.bandmatch.ch

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Re: Show HN: BandMatch – “Tinder” but for finding musicians to create bands/collab

#219

I’m loving the feedback everyone is posting here. While there are some cynics, you all have posted a treasure trove of useful insights for this creator. And for people like me who are constantly trying to improve user experience for the products they make, reading these comments has been incredibly insightful.

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Re: Show HN: BandMatch – “Tinder” but for finding musicians to create bands/collab

#220

What does swiping left mean? I may not want to collab with someone for a particular project but that doesn’t mean I never want to see their profile again. Also swiping left feels like rejecting them. What if I’m just browsing the artists? I don’t want to be rejecting while I’m browsing options. Also why am I limited to my area? I want to be able to collaborate digitally. I don’t need to be in close proximity to do th…

This is the same problem that every modern dating site seems to have after they copied Tinder. Swipe left - I never want to see this person again! Swipe right - I must contact this person right now! What happened to the idea of curating a list of interesting people who I may or may not want to meet right this moment, but I would like to make a list that I can refer to later? Just look at OkCupid for what a disaster t…

If there were a "maybe" button, then you could just click "maybe" on every single entry (or have a bot do that for you), and thus end up with the thing that's anathema to the Tinder monetization model: a directory of all users, for you to browse at your leisure, filtering and sorting and picking and choosing from it as you like, rather than as The Algorithm likes. (Which in turn means they could no longer upcharge people to appear immediately in other people's queues, etc etc.)

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Mind you, the more charitable argument is that allowing this would also massively decrease matches. Everyone would just say "maybe" to everyone else, because nobody is ever immediately sure that they like someone; the likelihood of two people both actually going back to their "maybes" to say "yes" to one another, and getting a mutual match, would drop to zero.

The Tinder model forces you to make a decision before you can move on, because the FOMO feeling generated by the possiblity of never seeing the person again if you press "no", is literally the only way to get a "yes" out of many people. An app based on a requirement of mutual matching, just wouldn't work without that coercion in place.

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That being said, there's a lot you could do to ameliorate both concerns. You could limit the number of "maybes" someone could hold onto at a time; and you could make "maybes" expire, so that a person has to eventually make a decision on them before they can move on. (Instead of "maybe", perhaps call the associated action "review later"?)

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