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Are Japanese anime robots isometric or allometric?

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Re: Are Japanese anime robots isometric or allometric?

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Then, what is the heaviest movable machine of human civilization? The answer is aircraft carriers. The U. S. Navy Nimitz class aircraft carrier is one of the largest ships, and each ship is about 325 m long and 99,000 t heavy. Looks like some ships are a few times heavier than that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_machines#Sea_v...

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Re: Are Japanese anime robots isometric or allometric?

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attack on titan is also a mecha anime

definitely not. Titans are closer to summoned creatures. And they're not the product of technology. Otherwise, a fight between two pregnant women could be seen as a mech fight.

>Otherwise, a fight between two pregnant women could be seen as a mech fight.

I mean, when you consider what pregnancy does to an expectant mother, hormonally, and the lengths to which some will go to protect their unborn child... It's not an entirely implausible characterization.

But speaking to AOT, specifically, it's real robot with some super robot/fantasy/Abrahamic text characteristics to allow for the setting. Despite the "summoning" aspect, practical considerations of when and how to employ titans, the political, social, and philosophical ramifications of their existence and use, and the fact that the story is ultimately a study of characters caught up in war and history and intrigue, all point to a solid mecha, real robot classification.

Re: Are Japanese anime robots isometric or allometric?

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Gundam, the niche that does 100 billion yen in revenue per year.

The toys are appealing even to children that never saw the anime. Actually I wouldn't let my kids watch it until they were at least 13 or so, maybe more depending on the child. A lot of war and mass-scale death there, and frankly, a lot of adoration for fascism - the space nazis turn out to be right.

Anime and Fascism really do seem to walk hand-in-hand a lot.

Even my beloved Frieren has an unnatural dehumanistic streak against Demons who exhibit intelligence and personalities, which she explains away as mere mimicry, despite the fact that she has learned magic from them.

I guess I know which side of the AI debate she rests on.

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Mecha seem to have disappeared from Japanese anime. Here's the anime list for Spring 2024.[1] [1] https://anichart.net/Spring-2024

Last season had Yûki Bakuhatsu Bang Bravern, SYNDUALITY and Gundam SEED FREEDOM, this season has Shinkalion and next season has Grendizer U. "Disappeared" seems like a strong word.

I watched Shinkalion purely out of desperation and was pleasantly surprised despite being a show for kids and having "terrible graphics".

And yeah there's not much mainstream, but you always get some Mazinger spinoff, some Gundam and other "minor" stuff. The genre is definitely not popular but it's alive.

Super Robot Taisen is also still ongoing, and while it's not a show (although it's been adapted a few times) it's a good way to find stuff that might have escaped your radar. And the originals can help quench the thirst for new cool robots with flashy moves. Lately they have been adding "never animated" stuff like Mazinger ZERO, GaoGaiGar Vs. Betterman and Getter Devolution which is nice too.

Re: Are Japanese anime robots isometric or allometric?

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> In contrast, Macross is very unrealistic because Macross is equal to a pile of 182 Nimitz class aircraft carriers in terms of mass.

Is it? It's also 5 times longer (and presumably wider) than the Nimitz aircraft carrier. That would mean that Macross is only about 5-6x denser than the Nimitz aircraft carrier, which isn't entirely out of the realm of reason for a futuristic space battleship. If nothing else, having several tens of meters of dense matter between the innards and the outside where high energy photons are flying around sounds like a great idea.

It was also originally meant to house creatures much larger than humans, which correspondent mass, so the structure of the ship would reflect that.

Re: Are Japanese anime robots isometric or allometric?

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> The English term’s meaning changed when it was re-borrowed. Like the meaning of the term "anime" changed?

The point is "mech/mecha" as in "biped humanoid machines" is en-US specific. In ja-JP and probably few others it's "robots". "Anime" is more widely understood.

But then OP is correct: mecha/mech refers to humanoid bipeds. The Japanese word is not mecha but メカ (meka in romaji).

EDIT: I'm being pedantic. When used in English, "mecha" or "mech" is an English word and the semantics associated with similar words in other languages don't really matter. Where it gets confusing is that it's used in the context of discussing Japanese media (and its foreign derivatives) in English. The reason I'm being pedantic is that my native language is German and not only have German loanwords in English often mutated in ways that trip up German native speakers (e.g. wanderlust is better translated as Fernweh, whereas Wanderlust is more about hiking and being in nature) but the same is true in the inverse, i.e. a lot of English loan words in German have different or narrower meanings than in English (e.g. a Burger is not a type of Sandwich as that specifically refers to a sandwich using white bread and a Hot Dog always includes the bread and topping/sauces whereas the hot dog is just a Wurst and ground beef is never referred to as sausage or burger).

Re: Are Japanese anime robots isometric or allometric?

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Kept looking for GL’s outlier dot in the super robot section, then figured the just left it out so as to not bastardize the results. For anyone OOTL, the show features robots at an intergalactic scale, such that the crew needs to invent FTL communications and travel just to communicate and move within the ship proper.

And gave us the infantitly large scope dog in games

Or Boss Borot vs Anti-Spiral.
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