Notably an even higher risk of VD than Tinder, sources say.
Show HN: BandMatch – “Tinder” but for finding musicians to create bands/collab
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Re: Show HN: BandMatch – “Tinder” but for finding musicians to create bands/collab
#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
Since this is the first iteration, I went the easiest route where people link their SoundCloud/Spotify/or Youtube channel. I considered having MP3 uploads or even video uploads, but didn't seem worth it building a transcoding/streaming system, when someone could still upload things that is not them playing. Another idea is to "verify" linked Spotify accounts by having the artist place a short random code in their Spo…
You're missing the bulk of the already small market if you're assuming people signing up for your app will universally have Spotify tracks up or their own YouTube channel. Soundcloud is more likely, but still not a given, as it's geared towards mostly finished tracks. Hint: the most sought after band members are bassists and drummers, and they don't tend to do solo tracks. You want people to be able to have a low qua…
Record a couple minutes of you playing something, upload it to your YouTube channel, and submit the link.
You’re acting like young people wanting to join a band don’t know how to post things on the Internet.
Re: Show HN: BandMatch – “Tinder” but for finding musicians to create bands/collab
#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think, fwiw, I would rather work with someone who has the drive and motivation to finish a track of their own than merely recruit a noodler. I think that from a management perspective, I would also abhor opening up any sort of video/audio sharing because then you’re a target for the majors and you get DMCA’d into the ground when kids start uploading their remixes of Taylor Swift songs or whatever.
I work in the music industry. An important thing said once to my arrogant twenty something self by a product manager: "Our market is amateurs. The pro market is a unsustainably tiny." There's basically no product in the music industry that can be supported by just pros. There just aren't very many of them. And again, most drummers and bass players don't create complete tracks on their own, and they're the main thing…
So you don’t need an app like this in order to find gigs or collaborators.
Re: Show HN: BandMatch – “Tinder” but for finding musicians to create bands/collab
#134Re: Show HN: BandMatch – “Tinder” but for finding musicians to create bands/collab
#135Earlier quoted context omitted.
> A little scared to make it selectable, as it would make it much easier for spammers/scammers to target locations, as the only verification is email. I do realize they can still change their location that with an emulator. So there's not really any hurdle at all for automated spammers who can fake their location easily, but you're making it more difficult for genuine users anyway?
My thought process was that clicking allow or allow once would be less difficult for genuine users than searching for their city.
The concern's probably that in order for location tracking to not give you their exact home location, they'd have to drive a good distance away from their home or something before allowing it once. That doesn't seem less difficult than searching for the city from the comfort of their home.
Re: Show HN: BandMatch – “Tinder” but for finding musicians to create bands/collab
#136Timbre was right there.
Re: Show HN: BandMatch – “Tinder” but for finding musicians to create bands/collab
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
I work in the music industry. An important thing said once to my arrogant twenty something self by a product manager: "Our market is amateurs. The pro market is a unsustainably tiny." There's basically no product in the music industry that can be supported by just pros. There just aren't very many of them. And again, most drummers and bass players don't create complete tracks on their own, and they're the main thing…
Interesting. My perspective is pretty skewed as a semi-pro musician and someone who is mostly a recording artist and not a live band/jam guy. I think there are a lot of people who CAN do it all but might be open to collabs with the right person(s). You are correct that the pro market is vanishingly small but if OP thinks they’re making any money off of bassists who could just post on Craigslist I think they’re in for…
I've used sites that are trying something similar to find bands in the past. So I think I'm pretty close to the target market (or have been in my past). I don't want to post bass-player-looking-for-band on Craigslist or such -- did it once, and you get swamped by shitty bands who mostly still don't send any audio.
As a bass player, I want to hear if the singer can sing, and if the sketches of songs are good.
I can also play all of the standard band instruments at varying levels of competence, but I'm not much of a songwriter. What people expect from bass players and drummers is that they are good at catching things quickly and writing interesting parts.
Re: Show HN: BandMatch – “Tinder” but for finding musicians to create bands/collab
#138I saw down below that you’re not familiar with Vampr, which is very similar to what your screenshots suggest.
Moments like this always make me sad. Even a cursory web search would have surfaced Vampr, along with several other find-a-bandmate sites.
Weeks or even months of work because Googling was too much trouble.
So what happens now?
Do you let sunk cost dictate your actions and force you to continue working on an undifferentiated and far less feature-rich product?
Or do you stop working on your app and just start using Vampr?
Re: Show HN: BandMatch – “Tinder” but for finding musicians to create bands/collab
#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're missing the bulk of the already small market if you're assuming people signing up for your app will universally have Spotify tracks up or their own YouTube channel. Soundcloud is more likely, but still not a given, as it's geared towards mostly finished tracks. Hint: the most sought after band members are bassists and drummers, and they don't tend to do solo tracks. You want people to be able to have a low qua…
Record a couple minutes of you playing something, upload it to your YouTube channel, and submit the link. You’re acting like young people wanting to join a band don’t know how to post things on the Internet.
Are you a musician? Have you ever used a site like this?
My comments are literally based on the disappointments in using similar sites in the past. Most people don't add audio. Profiles without audio are useless. Making (and possibly providing minimal vetting?) people post audio would already be a big step in the right direction.
Re: Show HN: BandMatch – “Tinder” but for finding musicians to create bands/collab
#140I think this would work better if it had 2 modes, one built by scraping/bots from public listings, sound cloud etc, which would let you discover and reach out on those platforms.
And one powered by "list yourself" where people would create their profiles to make themselves easier to discover.
This would avoid the issue of not having many users initially whilst also making it interesting to use.