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Re: Ask HN: Nineteen Year Old Needing Advice

#11

Have you read http://www.xenophobes.com/books/The-Xenophobes-Guide-to-the-... ? (FWIW, it took me ~5 years to really feel at home going the other direction; by then you should've graduated?)

Thank you for the book recommendation. I read the preview and it's accurate. I will give it a read.

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Others have broached this, you can change your environment or you can change yourself. There is a lot of value cultivating the ability to connect to people unlike yourself, so I'm biased towards the latter.

A framing that's helpful for me sometimes is realizing that every one of us is born inevitably doomed to die. Our shared mortality and the impermanence of everything seems like a much bigger deal than small differences in perspective. Everyone's making their own progress along the same path. I think the best we can do is have compassion for ourselves and others. Whether we like it or not, we're all in this together.

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Look to contribute to an Open Source project. You can get quite a resume and reputation if you can help with some of the larger apache projects or something from Meta/Facebook.

You'll (eventually) get to attend conferences, meet other like minded folk, and maybe decide what to do next with your life.

It's not a long term solution to not being thrilled about your college or town, but it's potentially some relief from not being challenged or interacting with people like you.

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post #5

Have you considered trying to start something that might help others to care about something you care about? This might take some patience but it could be worth a try. It comes across as if you're the elbow kinda guy, but handing the scepter of society to people like this is much of the reason for the US's spiritual dilapidation. I unfortunately had to witness that these past two decades...

Yes, I've thought about starting an eastern european club at my school. Could you please elaborate on your second paragraph. I don't understand it.

> starting an eastern european club at my school.

Wait, are you from Eastern Europe or Western Europe?

If Eastern, I suggest taking some time after the semester ends and spending a few weeks in large rustbelt cities (Chicago, Cleveland, Milwaukee, etc). There are large communities of highly entrepreneurial people from Poland, the Balkans, Ukraine, etc.

If you are from France, Spain, Portugal, Germany, etc, I don't know what to tell you. Most people I've met intentionally assimilate and don't put any effort into forming bonds with others from their former countries.

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There's a saying: If you meet one asshole, they're an asshole. If everyone you meet is an asshole, you're the asshole.

It is true that in a smaller college town here in the USA you'll meet a lot of people who are not ambitious, or have ambition to do things you don't find valuable, but if you can't find anyone who you think is doing something interesting, that suggests the issue is at least as much with you as it is with your environment and the people around you. I suggest therapy, talking to a professor you're close with, or someone back home.

Good luck.

Re: Ask HN: Nineteen Year Old Needing Advice

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post #3

You are displaying signs of narcissism. Other guys don't care how tall and skinny you are and are not jealous of you. You seem technically competent and will likely succeed in SF or elsewhere. Getting hired right-now in tech is reportedly difficult for most university grads, so you, without a degree, will be competing against people with a degree, which is obviously a disadvantage.

I looked for signs of narcissism and I check some of the boxes. I will see a therapist for this. Thank you.

It’s pretty normal to have some narcissistic inclinations as a 19 year old, but it’s important to recognize that it’s fundamentally from a place of insecurity and excessive worry about how others perceive you. A good therapist could be helpful.

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I'm American and I hated my CS program and university town. It was mostly immaturity on my part, but I had the same problems with US culture that you do which had a negative effect on my mental health. I would have preferred to be in Europe but I wasn't ready to live so far away from home. You should go home, for the sake of your mental health. Especially if there is a chance that you could do a CS program in an Euro…

Thank you for the advice. Why do you say to stay away from SF until I've graduated? I am against antidepressants or any medication but going to try therapy, so thank you for the recommendation.

SF will eat you alive :)

Re: Ask HN: Nineteen Year Old Needing Advice

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post #3

You are displaying signs of narcissism. Other guys don't care how tall and skinny you are and are not jealous of you. You seem technically competent and will likely succeed in SF or elsewhere. Getting hired right-now in tech is reportedly difficult for most university grads, so you, without a degree, will be competing against people with a degree, which is obviously a disadvantage.

I looked for signs of narcissism and I check some of the boxes. I will see a therapist for this. Thank you.

Try this. Not a therapist but some self reflection.

I'm above average in height. I'm stronger than most. I'm very bright. I hold strong opinions. I speak about them in the real world very rarely because nobody cares about "you" and they care about what you offer.

You don't care about your gym owner, his financial pain, his lack of business sense. You just want what you can get as cheap as possible. That's the market. That's life.

Ask yourself: what do I bring to this relationship, this encounter, this moment?

What should you do? Think about the 91 year old self. What are you going to do for him? He'll eventually resent you if you don't make decisions for him. He won't care if you failed. He'll care only if you made choices for the you now or the you later.

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> I hate interacting with people here. > I feel like I can’t connect with anyone > I have met insane people > but have met immature and fake people. > I haven't met anyone else who is ambitious I would say, totally respectfully, a trip to a licensed therapist is probably the #1 best option before making any bigger life decisions. You're talking about dropping out of college and moving all over the world, but very cle…

Thank you, I will try this.

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