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Re: 00Key a 75% Keyboard

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Post by bluGill »

VyseofArcadia wrote: post #6
mmh0000 wrote: post #4

I really do not like these compressed baby keyboards that are missing essential keys. My perfect keyboard would be something like a 150% with standard full layout but then adding in a bunch of programmable macro keys, I want more than F12! I want F1 through F36. Also a built in coffee grinder, water heater, and there should be a fan under the keys to keep my hands cool. Okay, ignore those last three.

I've been wondering for a while now why these fractional keyboards are so popular. It's some sort of trendy faux-minimalism that I've never been able to wrap my head around.

It is nice for a laptop to have real keys but still small enough to fit in a backpack, which is why I hake a 60%. It does most of what I want.

i have a full size keyboard but it takes up so much desk space I don't use it.

Re: 00Key a 75% Keyboard

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Post by CodeWriter23 »

mmh0000 wrote: post #4

I really do not like these compressed baby keyboards that are missing essential keys. My perfect keyboard would be something like a 150% with standard full layout but then adding in a bunch of programmable macro keys, I want more than F12! I want F1 through F36. Also a built in coffee grinder, water heater, and there should be a fan under the keys to keep my hands cool. Okay, ignore those last three.

Meh, getting my mouse closer to my keyboard pays off in reduced shoulder and neck pain.

Re: 00Key a 75% Keyboard

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Post by mmh0000 »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #23
mmh0000 wrote: post #4

I really do not like these compressed baby keyboards that are missing essential keys. My perfect keyboard would be something like a 150% with standard full layout but then adding in a bunch of programmable macro keys, I want more than F12! I want F1 through F36. Also a built in coffee grinder, water heater, and there should be a fan under the keys to keep my hands cool. Okay, ignore those last three.

You joke about the fan but I'd love a keyboard heater for winters. I keep it cold in here to save $ but I have a hard time keeping my hands comfortable.

There's always some truth to a joke and I wouldn't mind heated/cooled keys.

If you're not aware, such a thing already exists!

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B87H383N

Re: 00Key a 75% Keyboard

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Post by icegreentea2 »

digging wrote: post #17
atlas_hugged wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A subset of those is gamers that want the mouse closer to the center, rather than off to the right when using a full keyboard. Especially competitive gamers, because it helps reduce RSI

> because it helps reduce RSI Really?! I spend so much time on my macbook for work using the trackpad as my primary mouse and it feels horrible for my arms. I could understand t improving APM but on my personal computer I really like having things spread out, it allows me to flex my arms a lot more.

Smaller keyboards just give your mouse a larger workspace and more freedom to reposition. While there are "bad" and "good" positions for RSI, the reality is that being fixed into the "optimal" position with no ability to adjust will also eventually cause problems.

Your ability to vary position is important to staying healthy. More workspace can help with that.

Re: 00Key a 75% Keyboard

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Post by zubairshaik »

BossingAround wrote: post #2

Personally, I found the perfect keyboard in Ergodox [0][1]. Ortholinear, split, programmable (and open-source) keyboard with hot-swappable switches. I've had my Ergodox EZ [2] for ~7 years now. The biggest problem that happened was that some of the switches started malfunctioning - fixing which was a matter of literally 5 minutes. I don't think I would want to go back to non-split, non-ortholinear keyboards nowadays.…

> I don't think I would want to go back to non-split, non-ortholinear keyboards nowadays.

Same for me but even further, after using the Glove80[0] I don't want to go back to non-colstag, non-keywell keyboards.

[0] https://www.moergo.com/pages/glove80-ergonomic-keyboard-desi...

Re: 00Key a 75% Keyboard

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Post by yttrium »

WesleyLivesay wrote: post #10
BossingAround wrote: post #2

Personally, I found the perfect keyboard in Ergodox [0][1]. Ortholinear, split, programmable (and open-source) keyboard with hot-swappable switches. I've had my Ergodox EZ [2] for ~7 years now. The biggest problem that happened was that some of the switches started malfunctioning - fixing which was a matter of literally 5 minutes. I don't think I would want to go back to non-split, non-ortholinear keyboards nowadays.…

I had exactly the same experience. After using the Ergodox since around 2020 it is hard to see going back to a non-split keyboard. It helps that I also swapped to a trackball at the same time and I find the ergo of having a trackball between a split keyboard to be excellent. Also, having the backspace key as the "home" key for my left thumb has greatly increased my typing speed....I make a lot of mistakes.

Which trackball do you use?

Re: 00Key a 75% Keyboard

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Post by swah »

input_sh wrote: post #28
mmh0000 wrote: post #4

I really do not like these compressed baby keyboards that are missing essential keys. My perfect keyboard would be something like a 150% with standard full layout but then adding in a bunch of programmable macro keys, I want more than F12! I want F1 through F36. Also a built in coffee grinder, water heater, and there should be a fan under the keys to keep my hands cool. Okay, ignore those last three.

That niche is usually filled with something like a Stream Deck alongside your keyboard, though personally, I'd recommend MIDI controllers. You get a lot of extra buttons very cheaply, using an open, easily-readable protocol. Get a label maker to put some labels on top of the buttons, and you're good to go! In my experience it's a much easier option when compared to trying to say to your computer "key A has two functi…

Do you mean the thing that looks like a tiny piano or the thing that looks more squarish with 8x8 buttons that light up?

Some project in this space https://github.com/michd/mmpd

Re: 00Key a 75% Keyboard

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Post by mmh0000 »

dyingkneepad wrote: post #21
mmh0000 wrote: post #4

I really do not like these compressed baby keyboards that are missing essential keys. My perfect keyboard would be something like a 150% with standard full layout but then adding in a bunch of programmable macro keys, I want more than F12! I want F1 through F36. Also a built in coffee grinder, water heater, and there should be a fan under the keys to keep my hands cool. Okay, ignore those last three.

I have a keyboard that's "missing" essential keys, but I have a special key that I can press with my thumb that changes that every single key does (it's called a Layer). So I never need to move my wrist to press the arrow keys: just hold the thumb button and press hjkl. Page up is layer+t, page down is layer+g. And so on. It's great, my wrists thank me. I can even program a macro that will trigger an OS shortcut that…

I'm familiar with layers; in fact, I have an extensive layer setup in KDE. But then the problem becomes that I can never remember which key under what layer does what action. So, I basically use four keys from my other layers and have given up on all the others I set up.

My poor memory is my unique problem. Layering won't help. Having dedicated keys that I can see, though, helps me remember what those do. As someone else suggested, I can put custom labels on the extra keys.

Re: 00Key a 75% Keyboard

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Post by CodeWriter23 »

WesleyLivesay wrote: post #10
BossingAround wrote: post #2

Personally, I found the perfect keyboard in Ergodox [0][1]. Ortholinear, split, programmable (and open-source) keyboard with hot-swappable switches. I've had my Ergodox EZ [2] for ~7 years now. The biggest problem that happened was that some of the switches started malfunctioning - fixing which was a matter of literally 5 minutes. I don't think I would want to go back to non-split, non-ortholinear keyboards nowadays.…

I had exactly the same experience. After using the Ergodox since around 2020 it is hard to see going back to a non-split keyboard. It helps that I also swapped to a trackball at the same time and I find the ergo of having a trackball between a split keyboard to be excellent. Also, having the backspace key as the "home" key for my left thumb has greatly increased my typing speed....I make a lot of mistakes.

I always feel the first thing I would do with a split keyboard is 3D print a baseplate to keep the two halves aligned. Which.might.just.work.

Re: 00Key a 75% Keyboard

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Post by trothamel »

mmh0000 wrote: post #4

I really do not like these compressed baby keyboards that are missing essential keys. My perfect keyboard would be something like a 150% with standard full layout but then adding in a bunch of programmable macro keys, I want more than F12! I want F1 through F36. Also a built in coffee grinder, water heater, and there should be a fan under the keys to keep my hands cool. Okay, ignore those last three.

I bought the Keychron V6 a couple weeks ago, and I'm loving it. It only has 4 extra keys, but it's nice to have a single button that builds and flashes a device, rather than a multi-key combo.

Also runs QMK/Via, which means I can reprogram those buttons on device, rather than having to make the apps correspond to the keyboard.

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