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I thought the whole thing was He3 makes it viable.
Only if and when fusion reactors using He3 become possible, which for now is unpredictable.
Ok, I thought He3 was also useful for smartphone manufacture?
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#73Being in the U.S., I am isolated from China and the zeitgeist of its people - but I'm getting little hints that the Moon may very well be in the forefront. With this "mood", Chinese astronauts on the Moon seems inevitable now. And I don't say that with dread, it's just more of an awakening I am having to a future that I had not thought much about until very recently. I think in fact I look forward to it because I sup…
This is China century. You should check out Chinese space station vs the American ISS. One day we will see it is Russian-Indian-Chinese doing the Star Trek. Kubricm's 2001 will be remade with corrected actual representation in future.
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So this may be because Americans think of China as China's political system. When they think "Chinese" they think Xi Jingping. How many Chinese people think of America and go "Joe Biden"? I'd bet more of them think "Brad Pitt" or something along those lines. My point is, Americans may see Chinese people as their political system. While the Chinese see Americans as their culture: movies, tv, music etc.
In the past, on Hacker News, I've had to explain to commenters here that the level of anti-China propaganda in the US is magnitudes higher than any anti-American propaganda in China. Most don't believe me because they assume that China must be deploying the same level of anti-American propaganda as the US deploys the opposite. In 2024, if you go to a coffee shop in China, you'll very often hear American music. If you…
I think its more normal to have a "moderate view on China" than you would assume if you only interact with other people online, or via reading newspapers. Normal Americans don't even see their own government as being their business (with good reason, since democratic inputs are not connected to governmental decision-making), let alone some country on the other side of the world where they'll never go, or likely even meet someone from.
I suspect the modal view on China among Americans is just nothing -- they've never even thought about it. We'll never get a poll that confirms this because asking the question at all clouds the answer.
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In the past, on Hacker News, I've had to explain to commenters here that the level of anti-China propaganda in the US is magnitudes higher than any anti-American propaganda in China. Most don't believe me because they assume that China must be deploying the same level of anti-American propaganda as the US deploys the opposite. In 2024, if you go to a coffee shop in China, you'll very often hear American music. If you…
I think its more normal to have a "moderate view on China" than you would assume if you only interact with other people online, or via reading newspapers. Normal Americans don't even see their own government as being their business (with good reason, since democratic inputs are not connected to governmental decision-making), let alone some country on the other side of the world where they'll never go, or likely even…
I think you’re right that on a daily basis, the average American does not think about China.
But I’m more talking about the overall perception, the sentiment. I would not describe it as “nothing”. It’s far more negative in my experience.
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This isn't authoritative in the slightest, but having lived in China I got a general feeling that Chinese see themselves as a third world country that's kinda backwards and trying it's best to catch up. This was my sense talking to normal people that sell noodles and whatnot. There is a kinda separate ultra nationalist crowd that probably see things different, but they don't really represent the majority. I think lan…
When I visited China late last year, I spoke to the people there on what they thought about the US and the current trade war. Almost everyone I spoke to said that they think the US is a very advanced country and admire the US. They have no interest in changing or influencing the US to be more like themselves. They see this trade war as just "what politicians do". They seem to have an understanding of why China is doi…
It’s a lot easier for the second place player to want to cooperate with the first place than vice versa. The U.S. doesn’t want to let their control subside, and is willing to push back at nations who come too close.
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This isn't authoritative in the slightest, but having lived in China I got a general feeling that Chinese see themselves as a third world country that's kinda backwards and trying it's best to catch up. This was my sense talking to normal people that sell noodles and whatnot. There is a kinda separate ultra nationalist crowd that probably see things different, but they don't really represent the majority. I think lan…
in the major cities at least, there is significantly growing awareness atp that domestic infrastructure, technology, etc. is simply better than in the west. people meme about western cities as being comparable to villages however 1. they certainly do recognize areas where they are "behind". more interesting than technologies (ex. space, hn's new pet topic in semiconductors eyeroll , etc.) are things like recognizing…
That's super interesting! and I believe it. I hope it doesn't get replaced with a smug nationalism. I just generally saw a lot of curiosity about the way people do things in other nations. Maybe this was in part due to an inferiority complex, but I thought it was a very healthy amount of humility and willingness to learn from others (which is completely absent in the US)
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#78Did they scramble the coordinates for national security?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restrictions_on_geographic_d...
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There's a big difference between simply shooting stuff at Earth (or even simply off the moon into space) and actually sending it back. Yes, SpaceX charges $300k for sending 50kg to SSO as a rideshare but that's with all the infrastructure and logistics already in place. Landing on the moon is a very different endeavour than simply reaching Earth orbit from Earth. In order to refuel and reuse rockets on the moon, you'…
> Landing on the moon is a very different endeavour than simply reaching Earth orbit from Earth. In order to refuel and reuse rockets on the moon, you'd need to build out all the infrastructure for doing so first, not to mention the resources necessary for continuous operation. Even getting running water on the moon would be a huge logistical and infrastructure challenge, let alone operating a launch pad. Anyone that…
And then also remember that Factorio is a game and thus makes this fun and easy compared to how grueling and boring the real deal would be.
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Only if and when fusion reactors using He3 become possible, which for now is unpredictable.
Ok, I thought He3 was also useful for smartphone manufacture?
No, you're probably thinking of this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18340693 (He4 exposure temporarily messes up iPhones by glitching their MEMS clocks)