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Re: I'm closing up shop on my Mastodon for the foreseeable future

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Post by themaninthedark »

esperent wrote: post #7
keikobadthebad wrote: post #3

I did not hear 'reply guy' before joining mastodon. If you're posting short messages with a reply text box, you can expect to get replies, and the replies are going to reflect how your post was received, no matter how it was sent. It works both ways - I replied to a post from an artist really enraged with AI and pointed out it's no different from a human artist seeing art and incorporating it into their style; that r…

I think it might be good for you to reflect on what this "reply guy" thing actually means, and why it is (IMO) a good idea to use it to judge your comments before replying to someone, if you care in any way about empathic online discourse. For example, the artist: their livelihood is directly threatened by AI, if not now then probably in the near future, and they are responding by posting about their fear. It's trans…

It sounds to me like "Reply Guy" is being used as shorthand for, you are not supporting me in either position, emotional needs...

Perhaps we have different concepts of what we use social media for, some use it as a para-social support system and others are as a tool to debate and examine different positions.

Re: I'm closing up shop on my Mastodon for the foreseeable future

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Post by catapart »

dt3ft wrote: post #22

Back in the day, people used to make the infamous "quitting this forum" post. Is this the same thing, but in 2024?

I was definitely waiting on the "it's not an airport; you don't have to announce your departure" comment coming around.

Re: I'm closing up shop on my Mastodon for the foreseeable future

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Post by MichaelZuo »

Retr0id wrote: post #57
VHRanger wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't have to read it? If you hate reading comments AND you can't stop yourself from reading them, go see a therapist. I don't mean this blithely, it's a sign of unaddressed emotional issues, it's a fixable thing and nothing to be ashamed of. It's not "who you are", it's just "a bad behavioral habit".

The world is small, I regularly stumble across my own work or discussion thereof. I don't hate reading replies, I just hate reading replies that suck, and you can't tell if a reply sucks until after you've read it.

Since the benefits of the internet connected world are practically impossible to reject, and unless you go full hermit. It stands to reason the downsides are also practically impossible to reject, unless you go full hermit.

Re: I'm closing up shop on my Mastodon for the foreseeable future

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Post by alt227 »

beowulfey wrote: post #48
lrvick wrote: post #5

Any medium where you invite commentary from strangers on the internet is going to be full of ignorant commentary. If this is something that stresses you out, probably best to disable comments from anyone you do not follow. Simple as that. I do not think this is a problem with the tool. I do think over-exposure to internet commentary is toxic. Like alcohol, it is a poison that is only fun if you are capable of moderat…

I think there is an even simpler solution, and it's the one the author mentions... stop using that medium to post things.

The problem is that the author readily admits that they have done this on every social media site they have joined since the 90s.

At some point they have to realise that no matter the platform, if you put anything out the in the public domain you are going to attract negativity and wierdos.

Re: I'm closing up shop on my Mastodon for the foreseeable future

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Post by themaninthedark »

esperent wrote: post #37
AlexandrB wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What you're describing is an echo chamber. If that's something you want there are better ways to get it than a public, general purpose venue like Mastodon. To flip the script a little, would this "Reply Guy" standard also apply when someone with family in Israel posts support for the Israeli government's actions and gets a bunch of replies about how Israel is committing a genocide? I kind of suspect that "Reply Guy"…

Support the fearful artist, or leave them alone. Speak up against the person who you see as advocating for genocide. I don't think we need to over complicate this. Just do your best, you'll get it wrong sometimes but that's OK. It's a guideline for positive online discourse, not a law.

I think you missed the nuance there.

The hypothetical person supporting Israel has family in the country and is fearful of their family's safety. Wouldn't replying to them make you "Reply Guy"?

The parent of the conversation did not say that the artist was fearful, they said "enraged" or angry. It was posited in a child comment that the anger was out of a place of fear.

Depending on how you read the initial post, mood and priors, your reply to a comment can differ wildly.

Re: I'm closing up shop on my Mastodon for the foreseeable future

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Post by Simulacra »

willjp wrote: post #43

This is interesting. I don’t find that she’s hating on the tool at all - I think she’s frustrated by negative interactions that sap her energy, has taken note of that, and is explaining her absence. I both agree and disagree with some of the comments. Until very recently my interactions with the internet have been fairly shallow and that has protected me in some ways. But I think some people are looking for community…

What she wants is a billboard, not social media. She seems to want to post her views, and have them be seen, but doesn't want commenting on them they are positive reinforcement.

Re: I'm closing up shop on my Mastodon for the foreseeable future

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Post by beowulfey »

alt227 wrote: post #65
beowulfey wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there is an even simpler solution, and it's the one the author mentions... stop using that medium to post things.

The problem is that the author readily admits that they have done this on every social media site they have joined since the 90s. At some point they have to realise that no matter the platform, if you put anything out the in the public domain you are going to attract negativity and wierdos.

I think that is actually the exact bit of self discovery they are describing in the article!

Re: I'm closing up shop on my Mastodon for the foreseeable future

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Post by alt227 »

beowulfey wrote: post #69
alt227 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that the author readily admits that they have done this on every social media site they have joined since the 90s. At some point they have to realise that no matter the platform, if you put anything out the in the public domain you are going to attract negativity and wierdos.

I think that is actually the exact bit of self discovery they are describing in the article!

Thats what it looks like, but then you realise that the author has done this again and again and doesnt really seem to learn anything each time.

https://vkc.sh/another-lady-left-twitter/

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