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Roblox players to start seeing video ads in its virtual realms

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Re: Roblox players to start seeing video ads in its virtual realms

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Post by Dylan16807 »

fidotron wrote: post #67
Dylan16807 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you really need to be an ass instead of just saying yes or no with some proof? For most of the existence of cable, there was no way for it to send a signal back. It is not fundamentally based on tracking. The targeting you described in detail is not tracking.

I mean you simply went off showing you don’t know what you are talking about, then ask a stupidly basic question and when it gets the snarky answer it warranted claim the other person is an ass?

My bigger point was that cable didn't have that for most of that time, and you're ignoring that to nitpick one line. The answer to that question doesn't affect the rest of my comment. It doesn't show I don't know what I'm talking about, you're just being rude.

Especially since the correct answer is probably "some of them". I was hoping you could be more specific, since you're doing your best to give an impression of knowledge but not doing much to share it.

And your store loyalty remark was objectively being an ass, that comment adds no value to the conversation at all.

Re: Roblox players to start seeing video ads in its virtual realms

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Post by mrbadguy »

rich_sasha wrote: post #49

Just had an atrocious vision where you get in your self driving car, select destination, sit back in your seat... and the car starts showing you full windscreen ads (you don't need to look out after all).

Gah! Don’t give them ideas!

Re: Roblox players to start seeing video ads in its virtual realms

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Post by omnimus »

nineplay wrote: post #69
613style wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That's a pretty extreme interpretation. Anyone who downloads the IDE can create and publish a game. If kids are using the tool, making fun games, and sharing them with other people, than I think that's a good thing. It sounds like you might be lacking some context on this. Here's an article with more details: https://www.theguardian.com/games/2022/jan/09/the-trouble-wi...

"The trouble with Roblox, the video game empire built on child labour" Good grief, the article profiles 3 young developers who had to deal with serious problems but still falls short of "built on child labo(u)r". Just more clickbait garbage.

You have company built around user generated content made mostly by children that they sell and the company takes 70% cut.

Just clickbait no issues there lol.

https://www.techwontsave.us/episode/96_how_roblox_exploits_c...

Re: Roblox players to start seeing video ads in its virtual realms

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Post by raxxorraxor »

edvards wrote: post #28
babypuncher wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't make it OK.

We have ads everywhere. Teaching kids on how to handle ads is rather reasonable.

Or just heavily stomp a non-critical and non-beneficial industry that has a heavily negative impact on the attention span of young people.

Today we see that ad companies never get enough, so they need very strong corsets for conduct.

Re: Roblox players to start seeing video ads in its virtual realms

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Post by raxxorraxor »

ryandrake wrote: post #35
idle_zealot wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or we could stop normalizing mass manipulation on an unprecedented scale.

It's crazy the extent to which targeted ads have been normalized as "a part of life"... to the point where we have people defending targeting children, with "Well they get targeted with ads elsewhere, too." We are in one of the more terrible universes in the multiverse.

It is crazy that mobile devices have some fucked up ad ID. An operating system you can trust would shield you from receiving any ad in everyway possible and treat it as the malware that it is.

Re: Roblox players to start seeing video ads in its virtual realms

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Post by tomjuggler »

I wonder if my pi-hole setup will work to remove those ads like it does all the annoying and sometimes dangerous android in-app ads my son used to have to put up with.

Still annoyed with Roblox for blocking the Linux (wine) version from working so I have to use my phone to play now. Yes I play Roblox at 45, I get to interact with the kid and keep an eye on what he's doing. Still prefer Minecraft though..

Re: Roblox players to start seeing video ads in its virtual realms

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Post by fidotron »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #71
fidotron wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean you simply went off showing you don’t know what you are talking about, then ask a stupidly basic question and when it gets the snarky answer it warranted claim the other person is an ass?

My bigger point was that cable didn't have that for most of that time, and you're ignoring that to nitpick one line. The answer to that question doesn't affect the rest of my comment. It doesn't show I don't know what I'm talking about, you're just being rude. Especially since the correct answer is probably "some of them". I was hoping you could be more specific, since you're doing your best to give an impression of…

Why would I make the store loyalty remark? Because it is clear you are underestimating things you don’t know. Why would I think that? Because the cable people were targeting individuals and had the mechanisms and data to back it up. The satellite comment shows that _even_ the satellite people were doing this in spite of their disadvantages.

There is a distinct tendency on forums like this to believe if something isn’t widely discussed on the internet then it didn’t happen.

You should stop assuming the worst and being so obnoxious.

Re: Roblox players to start seeing video ads in its virtual realms

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Post by Dylan16807 »

fidotron wrote: post #77
Dylan16807 wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My bigger point was that cable didn't have that for most of that time, and you're ignoring that to nitpick one line. The answer to that question doesn't affect the rest of my comment. It doesn't show I don't know what I'm talking about, you're just being rude. Especially since the correct answer is probably "some of them". I was hoping you could be more specific, since you're doing your best to give an impression of…

Why would I make the store loyalty remark? Because it is clear you are underestimating things you don’t know. Why would I think that? Because the cable people were targeting individuals and had the mechanisms and data to back it up. The satellite comment shows that _even_ the satellite people were doing this in spite of their disadvantages. There is a distinct tendency on forums like this to believe if something isn’…

> You should stop assuming the worst and being so obnoxious.

You don't think this applies to the store loyalty comment?

I'm not surprised, I wanted specifics instead of implications, jesus. I'm not saying anything "didn't happen", unless you're claiming cable had universal tracking from the start, in the 50s.

And

AGAIN

That doesn't affect my main point, which you keep ignoring.

You ignoring my main argument is far more obnoxious than anything I'm doing.

Re: Roblox players to start seeing video ads in its virtual realms

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Post by skeaker »

autoexec wrote: post #55
skeaker wrote: post #46

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We shouldn't have to have ads everywhere. Ad-free societies can exist. Granted, the only one I've seen do it successfully was North Korea, and if that's what's required to get rid of ads, maybe it's not worth it... But man, videos of people just walking around in the city are crazy. Not an ad up anywhere, not a billboard on the skyline, not a logo on a building. Just that aspect of a complete lack of ads seems very p…

> Ad-free societies can exist. Granted, the only one I've seen do it successfully was North Korea, I don't think you could call North Korea ad free when it's wall to wall propaganda. Just because there's only one "product" allowed to advertise, that doesn't mean people aren't being constantly manipulated by advertising.

Yeah, it's obviously not the ideal, but if you look up a video of a walkabout through the city there you'll see what I mean immediately.

Re: Roblox players to start seeing video ads in its virtual realms

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Post by fidotron »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #78
fidotron wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would I make the store loyalty remark? Because it is clear you are underestimating things you don’t know. Why would I think that? Because the cable people were targeting individuals and had the mechanisms and data to back it up. The satellite comment shows that _even_ the satellite people were doing this in spite of their disadvantages. There is a distinct tendency on forums like this to believe if something isn’…

> You should stop assuming the worst and being so obnoxious. You don't think this applies to the store loyalty comment? I'm not surprised , I wanted specifics instead of implications, jesus. I'm not saying anything "didn't happen", unless you're claiming cable had universal tracking from the start, in the 50s. And AGAIN That doesn't affect my main point, which you keep ignoring. You ignoring my main argument is far m…

> That's broad targeting. Miles away from hypertargeting/surveillance.

This is just wrong. You are misinterpreting what I'm saying to mean what you want it to say and not what it does say, then getting confused, angry and demanding answers. It's not a winning strategy.

EDIT: in the spirit of generosity I will add a detail you seem to be missing: those target groups can be very very very very small indeed.

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