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Roblox players to start seeing video ads in its virtual realms

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Re: Roblox players to start seeing video ads in its virtual realms

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Post by kurisufag »

ethanholt1 wrote: post #12

Roblox has been on a constant downward trend. They’ve been doing some pretty awful stuff, including exploitation of children developers [0], unregulated market which encourages kids to gamble, lackluster moderation allowing kids to be harassed or worse, [both 1] and allowing manipulative and predatory games on their site [2]. [0] https://youtu.be/_gXlauRB1EQ?si=Cwfswyot9_FT29Fy [1] https://youtu.be/vTMF6xEiAaY?si=MbT…

as someone that grew up on roblox (i.e. has been playing semi-consistently for ~11 years, since elementary school), insofar as any of that is true, none of it is new.

If anything, the robux -> profit conversion rate was much worse back in the day (iirc engaging in it at all necessitated purchasing the highest subscription level, the now-defunct `Outrageous Builders Club'), and it was far more common for kids to waste their parents' money on `limiteds'.

the most widely-implemented roblox cheat feature (short of actual lua execution) was a button that would reskin you and another player to naked tones, then teleport their model to a doggystyle position. we used to sit around during sleepovers and scroll the catalog looking for games titled [18+ s3x rp] to mess around in.

on the flip side, fiddling with .rblx studio taught me lua and rudimentary 3D modeling at a ludicrously young age, and I made similar online acquaintances who went on to do very well with their learned skills.

Re: Roblox players to start seeing video ads in its virtual realms

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Post by taurath »

ethanholt1 wrote: post #12

Roblox has been on a constant downward trend. They’ve been doing some pretty awful stuff, including exploitation of children developers [0], unregulated market which encourages kids to gamble, lackluster moderation allowing kids to be harassed or worse, [both 1] and allowing manipulative and predatory games on their site [2]. [0] https://youtu.be/_gXlauRB1EQ?si=Cwfswyot9_FT29Fy [1] https://youtu.be/vTMF6xEiAaY?si=MbT…

They got the userbase and importantly took a massive amount of money at a multibillion dollar valuation, but now have to monetize so the product will get worse until the userbase goes away. It really is a Ponzi scheme all the way down

Re: Roblox players to start seeing video ads in its virtual realms

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Post by danhon »

edvards wrote: post #28
babypuncher wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't make it OK.

We have ads everywhere. Teaching kids on how to handle ads is rather reasonable.

I mean, yeah. Teaching kids how to survive mass-shootings at school in this way is also reasonable.

Seriously, this place sometimes.

Re: Roblox players to start seeing video ads in its virtual realms

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Post by skeaker »

edvards wrote: post #28
babypuncher wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That doesn't make it OK.

We have ads everywhere. Teaching kids on how to handle ads is rather reasonable.

We shouldn't have to have ads everywhere. Ad-free societies can exist. Granted, the only one I've seen do it successfully was North Korea, and if that's what's required to get rid of ads, maybe it's not worth it... But man, videos of people just walking around in the city are crazy. Not an ad up anywhere, not a billboard on the skyline, not a logo on a building. Just that aspect of a complete lack of ads seems very peaceful.

Re: Roblox players to start seeing video ads in its virtual realms

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Post by 613style »

nineplay wrote: post #37
ethanholt1 wrote: post #12

Roblox has been on a constant downward trend. They’ve been doing some pretty awful stuff, including exploitation of children developers [0], unregulated market which encourages kids to gamble, lackluster moderation allowing kids to be harassed or worse, [both 1] and allowing manipulative and predatory games on their site [2]. [0] https://youtu.be/_gXlauRB1EQ?si=Cwfswyot9_FT29Fy [1] https://youtu.be/vTMF6xEiAaY?si=MbT…

> Exploitation of children developers That's a pretty extreme interpretation. Anyone who downloads the IDE can create and publish a game. If kids are using the tool, making fun games, and sharing them with other people, than I think that's a good thing. Roblox is making money off various sorts of in-app purchases, but you can make an account for free, you can play games for free, and you can create games for free. It…

> That's a pretty extreme interpretation. Anyone who downloads the IDE can create and publish a game. If kids are using the tool, making fun games, and sharing them with other people, than I think that's a good thing.

It sounds like you might be lacking some context on this. Here's an article with more details: https://www.theguardian.com/games/2022/jan/09/the-trouble-wi...

Re: Roblox players to start seeing video ads in its virtual realms

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Post by bgun »

nineplay wrote: post #37
ethanholt1 wrote: post #12

Roblox has been on a constant downward trend. They’ve been doing some pretty awful stuff, including exploitation of children developers [0], unregulated market which encourages kids to gamble, lackluster moderation allowing kids to be harassed or worse, [both 1] and allowing manipulative and predatory games on their site [2]. [0] https://youtu.be/_gXlauRB1EQ?si=Cwfswyot9_FT29Fy [1] https://youtu.be/vTMF6xEiAaY?si=MbT…

> Exploitation of children developers That's a pretty extreme interpretation. Anyone who downloads the IDE can create and publish a game. If kids are using the tool, making fun games, and sharing them with other people, than I think that's a good thing. Roblox is making money off various sorts of in-app purchases, but you can make an account for free, you can play games for free, and you can create games for free. It…

I do agree that “exploitation” is a bit of an extreme take, but it isn’t an innocent business either. Hosting and profiting from a platform/marketplace for social content creation has, and will, trend toward preferences for viral, controversy-generating, and addictive content. Profit-sharing incentives to creators are meager but drive incredible lock-in behavior.

Children are wielding powerful content creation tools on TikTok and YouTube as well. And for every feel-good story about self-made young creators, there are thousands more telling of addiction, depression and anxiety for those caught in these spiraling for-profit walled gardens.

I’m all for teaching kids to be coders and makers, but I’m not sure Roblox is the poster child for it.

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