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Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

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Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

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Post by mw6621 »

noah91734 wrote: post #15
dcist wrote: post #2

Windows 11 is awful. It ruined the calendar view on the taskbar, which is a huge pet peeve for me.

There were a lot of regressions that upset me. The option for seconds in the system time was removed. Right-clicking the WiFi/internet connection in the taskbar no longer has the context menu option for "Troubleshoot connection", forcing me to go to options, search Troubleshooters, click "Other troubleshooters" (Because troubleshooting internet is so uncommon, right?) and THEN troubleshoot the internet connection. Fr…

There does seem to be a "Diagnose network problems" in the context menu when right-clicking on the internet connection icon.

Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

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Post by grishka »

brokencode wrote: post #13

Microsoft likes to alternate between good and bad releases of Windows. XP was good, Vista was bad. 7 was good, 8 was bad. 10 was good, and 11 is kind of bad. Not as bad as Vista or 8, but still noticeably worse than 10. Here’s hoping that 12 will be an OS with upgrading to.

They broke that streak at the turn of the century. 95 was bad, 98 was good, 2000 was good, XP was good, and then Vista was bad.

Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

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Post by legitster »

quchen wrote: post #7

I’m wondering, what keeps Windows afloat? I’ve become a Windows person in my childhood, and stayed one because games, Photoshop and 3DS Max ran on it. I’ve long switched to Linux (and dual-boot to a very much unloved Win10 for games that don’t run on Linux these days), and I’m baffled that ads occurring in the start menu are a thing – I was similarly shocked when Ubuntu tried this, and will always be cautious around…

Microsoft heavily divested from their OS business a while ago. Only the tiniest fraction of their income comes from selling end-user license keys.

Even if you don't use their OS, you probably give them money in gaming or indirectly through their enterprise clients.

Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

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Post by andix »

dcist wrote: post #2

Windows 11 is awful. It ruined the calendar view on the taskbar, which is a huge pet peeve for me.

For me it was an overall improvement over Windows 10. Every new release of every software has some drawbacks, but I got over getting upset about those little details. I just try to find new solutions, if old ones stop working.

Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

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Post by moffkalast »

noah91734 wrote: post #15
dcist wrote: post #2

Windows 11 is awful. It ruined the calendar view on the taskbar, which is a huge pet peeve for me.

There were a lot of regressions that upset me. The option for seconds in the system time was removed. Right-clicking the WiFi/internet connection in the taskbar no longer has the context menu option for "Troubleshoot connection", forcing me to go to options, search Troubleshooters, click "Other troubleshooters" (Because troubleshooting internet is so uncommon, right?) and THEN troubleshoot the internet connection. Fr…

> Microsoft let some designers who only use Mac OS do the design

I was wondering why Win11 ripped off that central icon taskbar thing from MacOS instead of keeping their iconic and proven layout. That explains everything.

Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

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Post by bscphil »

quchen wrote: post #7

I’m wondering, what keeps Windows afloat? I’ve become a Windows person in my childhood, and stayed one because games, Photoshop and 3DS Max ran on it. I’ve long switched to Linux (and dual-boot to a very much unloved Win10 for games that don’t run on Linux these days), and I’m baffled that ads occurring in the start menu are a thing – I was similarly shocked when Ubuntu tried this, and will always be cautious around…

> what keeps Windows afloat?

The fact that it's the only OS you can get preinstalled on an inexpensive computer from a reputable brand is why 90% of its users use it. People willing to spend $1k+ for a laptop mostly buy Apple.

(ChromeOS is a minor exception to this, but its usage is negligible [1], probably because it's so limited by design.)

[1] https://analytics.wikimedia.org/dashboards/browsers/#desktop...

Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

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Post by rdtsc »

quchen wrote: post #7

I’m wondering, what keeps Windows afloat? I’ve become a Windows person in my childhood, and stayed one because games, Photoshop and 3DS Max ran on it. I’ve long switched to Linux (and dual-boot to a very much unloved Win10 for games that don’t run on Linux these days), and I’m baffled that ads occurring in the start menu are a thing – I was similarly shocked when Ubuntu tried this, and will always be cautious around…

I don't personally like or enjoy using Windows but one good thing I have to say for it is that it has great backward compatibility: you can get old exe program from 20 years ago without too much of a hassle. It's less of an issue with VMs today but sometimes that's not an option for whatever reason.

But otherwise, yeah it's inertia, people will stick with what they know. Until it completely breaks and annoys them enough and then they'll go looking for something else.

Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

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Post by Xeamek »

_aavaa_ wrote: post #34
Xeamek wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, you can upgrade from w10 to w11 for free, without reinstalling full system. It's not really much different then 'w10 updates forever', just marketing with new version.

Unless you happen to have a CPU which isn't supported, like those still being made at the time when w11 was released. High end cpus too.

Sure, but even we stayed with w10 naming, we would still get an update with stricter requirements eventually

Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

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Post by skwirl »

quchen wrote: post #7

I’m wondering, what keeps Windows afloat? I’ve become a Windows person in my childhood, and stayed one because games, Photoshop and 3DS Max ran on it. I’ve long switched to Linux (and dual-boot to a very much unloved Win10 for games that don’t run on Linux these days), and I’m baffled that ads occurring in the start menu are a thing – I was similarly shocked when Ubuntu tried this, and will always be cautious around…

It's cheap, runs on everything, has a decent user experience, has a large network effect, and has wide software and peripheral support. I don't see why it wouldn't stay afloat.
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