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Ask HN: Those of you who don't use AWS/Azure/GCP, what do you use for hosting?

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Re: Ask HN: Those of you who don't use AWS/Azure/GCP, what do you use for hosting?

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Post by noop_joe »

Have you considered using a provider that might help eliminate some of the operational burden of running your apps?

At a very high level, when using the big 3 and hosting that's raw infra you're going to find ways to pay for _keeping things running smoothly_. At least the big three have happy paths to avoid some of the operational burden (hidden among many many foot guns).

Full disclosure I work at noop.dev [1], a hosting provider trying to shift the focus of developers from infra-level abstractions to application-level abstractions.

I'm probably biased, but my instinct is that concerns over lock-in are totally valid, but the cost of avoiding is higher than the penalty of embracing.

1. https://noop.dev

Re: Ask HN: Those of you who don't use AWS/Azure/GCP, what do you use for hosting?

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Post by rgrmrts »

https://fly.io and https://vultr.com

I used Fly as a modern successor to Heroku (I know Heroku is still around). Features are good, scaling to 0 is great, their networking stuff is solid, and pricing is fair. I generally use it to host application backends.

Vultr for when I want a long lived server or build my own infrastructure platforms. I use it as just a VPS provider for larger machines at reasonable costs. Caveat being I’m managing my own infrastructure with all the trade-offs that come with it.

Re: Ask HN: Those of you who don't use AWS/Azure/GCP, what do you use for hosting?

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Post by flybayer »

The problem with typical PaaS is significantly less reliability, higher costs, and limited flexibility than AWS for example.

But of course AWS is a nightmare on it's own.

So you might like Flightcontrol [1] which provides a PaaS user experience on your own AWS, thereby giving you the best of both worlds.

[1] https://www.flightcontrol.dev/

Re: Ask HN: Those of you who don't use AWS/Azure/GCP, what do you use for hosting?

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Post by gperkins978 »

So, there is an existing market of guys who know linode. If you have room in your payroll, you can hire a linode guy and have him manage it, but I would make sure that guy has a junior guy learning from him.

I say this because the rest of the world either does AWS/Azure, or still does it all onsite. Just my two cents.

Re: Ask HN: Those of you who don't use AWS/Azure/GCP, what do you use for hosting?

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Post by bennyhill »

speedgoose wrote: post #12

I used successfully OnPremise, OVH, Scaleway, Hetzner, and a few local and small OpenStack cloud providers. Why do you want to avoid the main cloud providers? Is it needed for your startup or you want to add extra risk and complexity?

I wouldn't use scaleway since they tried to copy AWS.. But in general, I'd say simple is a real data center layer node without all the strange contraption ideas to bill you by the byte for a filesystem that isnt a filesystem on top of a webserver that needs a filesystem..

Re: Ask HN: Those of you who don't use AWS/Azure/GCP, what do you use for hosting?

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Post by CM30 »

Currently using LiquidWeb for my sites, having been moved over from WiredTree when the former bought the latter. Not particularly cheap in either case, but found the support excellent, since they actually knew what they were doing tech wise and were willing to reconfigure half the server if something went wrong when upgrading libraries or language versions or setting up domains.

But you may want to provide a bit more detail as to what you're after here. What languages/frameworks do you plan to use, how much support do you need and what kind of pricing are you looking for?

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