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Re: Show HN: I'm 16 and building an AI based startup called Factful with friends

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Post by readingnews »

I admire your bravery of posting to something like HN for people to pick at it (there are always positives and negatives)...

Personally, I think there are a number of hard questions to answer surrounding fact checking, it might be wise to get advice from experienced people in fact checking (I have no idea what it is called, but I think that is an entire field).

No big deal, but it raises my curiosity, why are you located in Canada and incorporated in the U.K.? I see you already have a LTD, and TOS (so you _did_ speak to legal advice already, I guess?) It seems like you have gone pretty far with this already. It seems I can get a quote as a business... do you charge by the query?

Re: Show HN: I'm 16 and building an AI based startup called Factful with friends

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Post by sarboleda2299 »

Hello! I built Fakts (https://fakts.co/) a few years ago pre-LLMs as a college project. It attempts to highlight true, false, or inconclusive statements in a given article by checking them against a database of reputable sources. Feel free to send an email -- I'd be happy to share some of the learnings!

Re: Show HN: I'm 16 and building an AI based startup called Factful with friends

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Post by helloduck1234 »

sarboleda2299 wrote: post #23

Hello! I built Fakts ( https://fakts.co/ ) a few years ago pre-LLMs as a college project. It attempts to highlight true, false, or inconclusive statements in a given article by checking them against a database of reputable sources. Feel free to send an email -- I'd be happy to share some of the learnings!

Hi there, that would be great! What is your email? Mine is andrew@factful.io

Re: Show HN: I'm 16 and building an AI based startup called Factful with friends

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Post by helloduck1234 »

diabeetusman wrote: post #8

I typed "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog", clicked "Check Everything", I get a brief spinner, and [plugin:vite:import-analysis] Failed to parse source for import analysis because the content contains invalid JS syntax. If you are using JSX, make sure to name the file with the .jsx or .tsx extension. or nothing happens Edit: if I open the editor, type the same text, and then click "Fact Check", I get the s…

Oh, it is because we set a global check limit, 1 per second (we didnt think we would get so many users, got 500 in the last 30 minutes) We will fix that. But a simple reload should suffice

Re: Show HN: I'm 16 and building an AI based startup called Factful with friends

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Post by helloduck1234 »

readingnews wrote: post #21

I admire your bravery of posting to something like HN for people to pick at it (there are always positives and negatives)... Personally, I think there are a number of hard questions to answer surrounding fact checking, it might be wise to get advice from experienced people in fact checking (I have no idea what it is called, but I think that is an entire field). No big deal, but it raises my curiosity, why are you loc…

We are incorporated in the UK because it is the only place that allows 16 year olds to do so. For the businesses, we still aren't done the features yet but we would charge by query for API and by user for the subscription.

Re: Show HN: I'm 16 and building an AI based startup called Factful with friends

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Post by kemotep »

Is there more where we can read about how it works?

I tried testing it with the sentence “Toledo is the largest city in Ohio” and it’s suggestions were to replace this with paragraphs of text about what constitutes a city in Ohio and history about Ohio, which did happen to include that Columbus is currently the largest city in Ohio.

That doesn’t seem strictly helpful as a fact checker as at first glance it isn’t even addressing the truthiness of the original sentence and just bloviates on about other details, if I even accept it’s suggestion.

Is there a demo that shows how you expect people to use this?

Re: Show HN: I'm 16 and building an AI based startup called Factful with friends

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Post by helloduck1234 »

dweinus wrote: post #20
dweinus wrote: post #17

Andrew, you and your friends should be proud. It's really encouraging to see people, especially in your generation, thinking seriously about the problem of misinformation. There are fundamental challenges you all will face in this idea: - most current LLMs are trained on large amounts of web data that itself contains facts, opinions, and misinformation. These things are treated equally, so I would expect the LLM to g…

Thinking out loud... I don't think these problems can be solved. If you are going to do it anyway, I would suggest: - Using a RAG architecture on top of a database of factual information. Wikipedia is probably your best bet. It is not 100% factual or correct either, but maybe as good as it gets. Scaling RAG to wikipedia size is not trivial, but I think it can be done. - Prompting the LLM to cite its sources so people…

Yea ok, we already have the citing thing done, and are going to start working on the RAG architecture soon.
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