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Show HN: I'm 16 and building an AI based startup called Factful with friends

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Post by helloduck1234 »

Hey HN! My name is Andrew, and I'm thrilled to share with you a project I've been working on called Factful.

I'm a high school student with a passion for tackling misinformation online. Inspired by the need for more reliable content verification tools, I decided to create Factful. It's an AI-powered web app designed to revolutionize how individuals and organizations verify content.

Unlike traditional grammar checkers, Factful provides a comprehensive analysis that goes beyond just grammar. It evaluates context, factuality, coherence, and more to ensure the accuracy and credibility of content.

I believe that in today's information age, it's more crucial than ever to have tools like Factful to combat misinformation and promote content integrity. I'm excited to continue developing Factful and would love for you to check it out. Your feedback and support would mean the world to me. Thanks for taking the time to read about Factful, and please go check out our beta deployment of Factful (a little beyond the MVP) for free on our website!

Show HN: I'm 16 and building an AI based startup called Factful with friends
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Post by helloduck1234 »

fathasya wrote: post #2

I've check the website, is this tool free forever or have limitation? I don't see any pricing in the landing page

We are going to try to keep it free as long as possible. In an event that we cannot sustain it anymore, we will make it cheaper than any correction tool out there.

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#5

Post by helloduck1234 »

zero-sharp wrote: post #3

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Damn, what the MVP does right now, is check for already established facts. So basically, what we define as fact is something that has proof. For example, we stray away from political views as those are opinions, and stay with “facts”. As for disputed facts, we would also stay away from them unless they have a significantly larger backing than the other. The source currently is LLMs that are trained on huge amounts of data. We have a learn more feature, so whenever you get a suggestion, it gives you the link that the information was pulled from so you can check yourself to see the source. So in a nutshell, we focus more on known solid facts like historic and scientific information. And we are not capping about our age, here is my linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-jiang1/

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Post by zero-sharp »

helloduck1234 wrote: post #5
zero-sharp wrote: post #3

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Damn, what the MVP does right now, is check for already established facts. So basically, what we define as fact is something that has proof. For example, we stray away from political views as those are opinions, and stay with “facts”. As for disputed facts, we would also stay away from them unless they have a significantly larger backing than the other. The source currently is LLMs that are trained on huge amounts of…

The goal is admirable. But "fact checking" is complicated and intelligent people can disagree. And a lot of people understand that having a centralized source of "truth" isn't desirable.

The mathematical disciplines have proofs. That is, "facts" that are attained by deduction. Science can be rigorous, but it isn't driven through proofs. Science is empirical. A lot of the time, scientific research is not accessible and requires expert consensus. In any case, my guess is that most people aren't going to be fact checking math and physics, but socially relevant claims. And those are usually politicized.

The point is: I don't know how you're going to decide on "facts" or "truth" using AI without there being bias or domain expertise & understanding, especially considering that we know LLMs hallucinate. Again, keep in mind that educated people (experts) can disagree on social claims. Sorry if this is discouraging, but I'm just trying to be realistic.

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Post by sqeaky »

zero-sharp wrote: post #6
helloduck1234 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Damn, what the MVP does right now, is check for already established facts. So basically, what we define as fact is something that has proof. For example, we stray away from political views as those are opinions, and stay with “facts”. As for disputed facts, we would also stay away from them unless they have a significantly larger backing than the other. The source currently is LLMs that are trained on huge amounts of…

The goal is admirable. But "fact checking" is complicated and intelligent people can disagree. And a lot of people understand that having a centralized source of "truth" isn't desirable. The mathematical disciplines have proofs. That is, "facts" that are attained by deduction. Science can be rigorous, but it isn't driven through proofs. Science is empirical. A lot of the time, scientific research is not accessible an…

A core part of the problem is a lack of trust in institutions. People feel the experts aren't experts, feel the experts lie, or feel the experts have different and sometimes malicious goals.

Even if that weren't the case new institutions should be less trusted than those with a solid history.

So this new institution is trying to convince people of things. Why would my flat-earther coworker believe factful.io when they don't believe NASA?

I dont think this or any centralized tool or team can solve misinformation, despite that I think this is a worthwhile goal and I hope that you improve the situation as much as possible.

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#8

Post by diabeetusman »

I typed "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog", clicked "Check Everything", I get a brief spinner, and

    [plugin:vite:import-analysis] Failed to parse source for import analysis because the content contains invalid JS syntax. If you are using JSX, make sure to name the file with the .jsx or .tsx extension.
or nothing happens

Edit: if I open the editor, type the same text, and then click "Fact Check", I get the same error

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