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Re: Show HN: I made an app that helps you find where to stream movies and TV shows

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been a few years since I've used a VPN with streaming, but I recall some services not working well with it. I was in Australia with NordVPN to the US on a fibre connection.

Yea it all depends on if the service allows it. Netflix commonly showed me a “sorry you’re using a vpn so disable it” message and no amount of new sessions or incognito windows or exit nodes would fix it. Perhaps this has changed since that time, but I imagine it’s more likely a pacification measure to streaming services to point to for rights holders and if it “accidentally breaks” all the time, they can point the b…

> Netflix commonly showed me a “sorry you’re using a vpn

> Perhaps this has changed

It is an ongoing arms race. Sometimes the VPN providers are winning, sometimes the streaming services make a temporarily successful counter-offensive, sometimes the battleground is a mess with things working for some mixes of vpn/country/streamer but not others.⁰

The streaming services block the address ranges of known data-centres, though not commercial addresses more generally because there is often enough a cross-over between residential and commercial ISP accounts¹² so that is one workaround VPN providers can use in their choice of exit points (though bandwidth can be significantly more expensive that way than from a DC).

I'm not aware of it actually being done, but I'd not be surprised to find a less ethical VPN business hasn't tried to use their customers as a mesh and redirecting traffic around them as needed much like botnets use compromised hosts to forward requests. There are obvious technical difficulties here that make it a less practical idea³ but I can imagine someone trying it.

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[0] Reference: I don't use a VPN this way myself, preferring the other major unlicensed media access route, bit I know a few people who do with varying levels of success over time.

[1] My home account is essentially a commercial one as that is the ISPs main customer base, I use them for a number of reasons (fixed IPv4 that I can run servers off, in fact a /29 of v4 addresses though that is a lot less important to me now than it was some years ago, native IPv6 which is still no commonplace here (though I still haven't set that up properly after all this time!), much better support when things fail, so I'm not the one spending time chasing BT OR, etc.)

[2] Similarly, many small offices actually run their access off what is targetted as a residential account. And small businesses based in/around a home are another grey area.

[3] In many places most residential users have significantly asymmetric bandwidth, throttling their ability to be used as a relay, and a mix of accounts from different countries looking to come from the same address might trip the streaming services' account anomaly detection heuristics.

Re: Show HN: I made an app that helps you find where to stream movies and TV shows

#62

Improvement ideas: let the user set their country. If I live in Germany, and I don't want to bother with VPN, knowing that a TV show is available in Argentina and 30 other countries is not important. Also, I don't think this takes care of the case where some seasons of a show is available but not the others. Maybe that's also the reason for false negatives in some cases (others mentioned this). Another thing: be able…

Definitely would be useful and worth adding but think the idea was to show other countries (for VPN IP-spoofing purposes). Agree though it should have home country as the default (but also still show other countries in case your home country isn't streaming).

Random question, what VPN is good for location spoofing. My current vpn doesn't work for this purpose which is annoying

Re: Show HN: I made an app that helps you find where to stream movies and TV shows

#63
I don't see the point in this, sorry.

First of all, it seems to be inaccurate.

If you're going to sell people a VPN so that they can watch something, at least make sure that the suggestions are correct.

Oppenheimer is listed as being available in the United Kingdom on Netflix - and suggests that I sign up for NordVPN to access it. I'm already in the UK, so wouldn't need to do that.

Oh wait, it's not on Netflix in the UK - it's on Now (which is also listed to be fair).

Re: Show HN: I made an app that helps you find where to stream movies and TV shows

#64

I don't see the point in this, sorry. First of all, it seems to be inaccurate. If you're going to sell people a VPN so that they can watch something, at least make sure that the suggestions are correct. Oppenheimer is listed as being available in the United Kingdom on Netflix - and suggests that I sign up for NordVPN to access it. I'm already in the UK, so wouldn't need to do that. Oh wait, it's not on Netflix in the…

Maybe they fixed it in the 3 minutes since you commented, but it's not telling me Oppenheimer is available on UK Netflix, only to buy on Amazon (which seems correct - I'm in the UK and Amazon is showing me a Buy button)

Re: Show HN: I made an app that helps you find where to stream movies and TV shows

#65
post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definitely would be useful and worth adding but think the idea was to show other countries (for VPN IP-spoofing purposes). Agree though it should have home country as the default (but also still show other countries in case your home country isn't streaming).

Random question, what VPN is good for location spoofing. My current vpn doesn't work for this purpose which is annoying

NordVPN worked like a charm for me when I needed to spoof countries for video streaming a couple years ago.

Re: Show HN: I made an app that helps you find where to stream movies and TV shows

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post #57
post #35

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Seems like the best way to monetize this. Doubt anyone will regularly pay for the website and banner ads are annoying. Buying a VPN is the logical next step if you find a movie in a different country, might be nice to have multiple affiliate links but this seems like a win-win, it makes it easier to get a VPN for someone who isn't too familiar and the creator earns a bit for their work.

I always wondered how does affiliate for such sites work? justwatch too has affiliate links to all streaming networks. Do they sign up for affiliates for every available streaming network (which isn't possible as many don't have a program) or is there a syndicate affiliate network for this? I am building an price aggregator for a category of products and its so hard to sign up for each of their affiliate individually…

Many have hidden programs. First you bring them the traffic, then you call them and discuss an affiliate deal

Re: Show HN: I made an app that helps you find where to stream movies and TV shows

#67
Bit of immediate feedback - United Kingdom is out of alphabetical order, presumably because it's filed under Great Britain or GB. People from the UK always go for United Kingdom, so keep the label but update the sorting.

Edit: also, personal preference, but I really don't like it when there isn't a space on the page where my mouse isn't triggering some kind of rollover, in this case between the movie patches. I may be in the minority on that though.

Re: Show HN: I made an app that helps you find where to stream movies and TV shows

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post #64

I don't see the point in this, sorry. First of all, it seems to be inaccurate. If you're going to sell people a VPN so that they can watch something, at least make sure that the suggestions are correct. Oppenheimer is listed as being available in the United Kingdom on Netflix - and suggests that I sign up for NordVPN to access it. I'm already in the UK, so wouldn't need to do that. Oh wait, it's not on Netflix in the…

Maybe they fixed it in the 3 minutes since you commented, but it's not telling me Oppenheimer is available on UK Netflix, only to buy on Amazon (which seems correct - I'm in the UK and Amazon is showing me a Buy button)

It's still there for me!

https://imgur.com/a/mQ5tMQO

Re: Show HN: I made an app that helps you find where to stream movies and TV shows

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definitely would be useful and worth adding but think the idea was to show other countries (for VPN IP-spoofing purposes). Agree though it should have home country as the default (but also still show other countries in case your home country isn't streaming).

Random question, what VPN is good for location spoofing. My current vpn doesn't work for this purpose which is annoying

A lot of streaming services have wised up to dynamic IP ranges and will kick you off pretty quick. I use a service with a dedicated residential IP in my target country and that’s worked flawlessly for over 5 years.
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