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Re: Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file NLRB complaint

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Their actions achieved nothing of consequence. I don't see how that makes them "heroes", even from the point of view of someone that supports their views.

>> Their actions achieved nothing of consequence They drew attention to their cause, you're talking about them. You're talking about their cause. >> even from the point of view of someone that supports their views What views of theirs do you support, exactly?

> They drew attention to their cause, you're talking about them. You're talking about their cause.

You almost got it. We are talking about them… but not about their cause.

And therein lies the gold: they found a cause that they can use to scream look at me me me.

Re: Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file NLRB complaint

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I wouldn’t say it’s “Israel” doing this, it’s a belief shared by many (of course not all!) Jews. When your entire ethnic group has only a single tiny country in the entire world that it can call home you tend to take threats against it very seriously. Especially since most Jews in Israel are from the Middle East and if Israel didn’t exist they would literally have no other country in the region they could live in.

> When your entire ethnic group has only a single tiny country in the entire world that it can call home Are you implying that most of the Jews don't call where they live home? I think this is actually a kind of narrative that actual anti-semite spread about jews in their home countries. Most of Jews live outside Israel if you don't know that [1] And no, most jews in Israel are not from Middle East. They are prominen…

Where in the link [2] does it say that most Israeli Jews are of European decent? Just over half are not Ashkenazi (mostly Jews from the Middle East, Western and central Asia and Ethiopia). Additionally about 20% of Israeli citizens are Palestinian. Less than 40% of the total population are Ashkenazi.

Re: Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file NLRB complaint

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>> Rule number one of being a rebel. Don’t do it at work By doing it at work, they are risking high paying jobs, putting their careers at risk. In public. Risking something for a protest is the whole point. To the extent that they do that with their eyes open, risking high paying jobs, they are heroes. If they do that thinking the people who control Google will be fine with that and they will still keep their jobs, t…

Their actions achieved nothing of consequence. I don't see how that makes them "heroes", even from the point of view of someone that supports their views.

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Re: Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file NLRB complaint

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>> Their actions achieved nothing of consequence They drew attention to their cause, you're talking about them. You're talking about their cause. >> even from the point of view of someone that supports their views What views of theirs do you support, exactly?

> They drew attention to their cause, you're talking about them. You're talking about their cause. You almost got it. We are talking about them… but not about their cause. And therein lies the gold: they found a cause that they can use to scream look at me me me.

Sadly for them, I don't know any of their names, couldn't care who they are, and their protest will vanish from the news cycle in a few hours ... forever.

I suspect this is the same for everyone, even those who may be discussing Google's response.

So they may have wanted a "me me me" response, or they may have legitimately wanted to raise awareness, but it's a pretty large fail for a now strongly narrowed career path.

Re: Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file NLRB complaint

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there's also the fact that google will just keep being used by nearly everyone. at the same time, for the now fired employees, having "was a google employee" in their resumes will help them land a new job

So long as they never mention why they are a former Google employee. Instead of a current one.

This is accurate. HR doesn't want protesters on staff, and HR often googles candidates, checks social media, etc.

They may find sympathy at some businesses, but the larger the company, likely the less of that.

Re: Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file NLRB complaint

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Googler protests in the past have typically been walk-outs and other outdoor gatherings. This protest took place within the offices. Some of the protestors occupied senior executives' offices for many hours, and had to be removed by the police. Some of the protestors also streamed their protest from within the offices of the notoriously confidentiality-obsessed company. I don't buy the narrative that Google is cracki…

Either way, they're not coming back into the building, and Google would probably rather fight a law suit than dealing with these people personally ever again.

Why do you say that google would rather not deal with them personally?

Re: Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file NLRB complaint

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Either way, they're not coming back into the building, and Google would probably rather fight a law suit than dealing with these people personally ever again.

Why do you say that google would rather not deal with them personally?

Because they proved they are toxic. No company would like to deal with them again unless there’s something to be gained from the PR aspect.

Re: Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file NLRB complaint

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> where the most prominent voices support Hamas and what they did on Oct 7th This is a pretty unsupportable take from where I'm standing. Maybe we are in separate bubbles, but very little of the stuff I've seen/read is _in support of_ Oct 7th. Vast majority of voices condemn the attacks, request immediate ceasefire and immediate return of hostages. I know that line so well because of how much I've heard it.

Saying you condemn Oct 7th but you support the overall cause to free palestine is like saying you condemn Russians murdering Ukrainian civilians but you support the overall cause to retake the territory. Doesn't really work like that.

Re: Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file NLRB complaint

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> where the most prominent voices in the movement support Hamas This is absolutely not true. This is a perception being spread by the media who don't like the attention being drawn towards the US' complicity in potential war crimes, but has no basis in reality. In reality many protesters themselves are Jewish.

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Re: Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file NLRB complaint

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post #122

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> When your entire ethnic group has only a single tiny country in the entire world that it can call home Are you implying that most of the Jews don't call where they live home? I think this is actually a kind of narrative that actual anti-semite spread about jews in their home countries. Most of Jews live outside Israel if you don't know that [1] And no, most jews in Israel are not from Middle East. They are prominen…

Where in the link [2] does it say that most Israeli Jews are of European decent? Just over half are not Ashkenazi (mostly Jews from the Middle East, Western and central Asia and Ethiopia). Additionally about 20% of Israeli citizens are Palestinian. Less than 40% of the total population are Ashkenazi.

The comment I was replying to talked about Jewish in israel. They claimed that most of Jews in israel are from Middle East which is wrong and the link shows that. See the table about parental ancestors.
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