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US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Great, now do psilocybin, LSD and MDMA.

Yeah, no. We're already in a drug crisis as it is. We need to teach people that doing drugs (of any kind) isn't the answer to problems. Soft times seems to have created this problem where people would rather escape their lives than live them out.

I don't think people do psilocybin and LSD to escape from reality. I'm not even sure how that would work, given how I understand tolerance works for those drugs?

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I think most people agree that weed shouldn't be a schedule 1 drug, but I believe that the movement to decriminalize will have unforeseen consequences on our society. Marijuana use leads to cognitive decline and exacerbates psychiatric conditions even in healthy individuals, full stop. The literature on this is clear. Whether the tradeoff is worth it or not (the increased pleasure, for the decrease in cognitive ability), should be up to the individual to decide.

The problem I have is that no one is talking about the potential consequences when they're talking about legalization. My 70 year old mom is going to parties with her friends where they all have a new habit of smoking marijuana because "it's legal and safe". Regulators, politicians, and advocates only hail the positive effects of marijuana and no one is talking about the cognitive risks involved.

The reason probably is because I think most people agree that it's stupid to send people to jail for smoking marijuana. But they're conflating the idea that decriminalization is good with the idea that marijuana then must not be bad for you. And this is wholly not true, and I wish more people were talking about this.

Btw, I know I will probably get downvoted for this because marijuana users don't want to face the fact that they might be dampening their long-term cognitive potential but please go do a full review of the literature—you will begin to share the doubt that I have.

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People are talking about schedule 3 needing a prescription, etc. From the financial point of view that's irrelevant; the point is that you CANNOT legally sell schedule 1 drugs commercially (with some exceptions that I can't remember). Schedule 1 -> banned from the financial system. Schedule 3 -> OK to use the financial system. How the DEA schedule and the financial system interact is still unclear. The important part…

If it has been illegal to sell cannabis commercially, how have cannabis companies been allowed to form and be publicly traded? I would think that federal regulation to be publicly traded would cause issues.

Which US based weed companies are publicly traded?

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The greatest thing about tight, upcoming elections is that governments actually start to do a tiny bit of what people want. Great result.

Governments actually do a lot of what people want, alas. See https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691138732/th...

haha that reminded of a quote Osho.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5AeO-dKGBLs

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Socialists really hate freedom, don't they? Somehow, it's always "capitalism" in question when it is, in fact, freedom. It's none of the government's business what somebody takes into their body. All drugs should be decriminalized anyway. Smoking and alcohol take millions of lives every year, yet we say "people have the right" to drink or smoke. Why is marijuana different, which is way less dangerous than alcohol, wh…

I don't get this line of thinking. Should suicide be allowed too? That would make this argument congruent, otherwise I can understand it.

Are there places where suicide is criminalized?

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That’s pretty small potatoes though compared to going to a bank yourself and making a transaction for cash you don’t normally have around. Maybe there’s an ATM down the block but that’s not the case for many people.

Use a credit union or bank that doesn’t charge ATM fees; that’s what I do. Any CU-related ATM withdrawal is always free and I get 10 ATM withdrawals a month with fees reversed.

Almost all CUs use the same company to provide the ATM network. The fees between them get zeroed out in part because the transaction stays in house.

It’s probably better to say “nearly all CU withdrawals” because they don’t have a perfect monopoly.

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Socialists really hate freedom, don't they? Somehow, it's always "capitalism" in question when it is, in fact, freedom. It's none of the government's business what somebody takes into their body. All drugs should be decriminalized anyway. Smoking and alcohol take millions of lives every year, yet we say "people have the right" to drink or smoke. Why is marijuana different, which is way less dangerous than alcohol, wh…

I don't get this line of thinking. Should suicide be allowed too? That would make this argument congruent, otherwise I can understand it.

If it is voluntary, repeated, and the person of sound mind, I can't see why the government should prevent a terminal patient who is in constant pain from dying with dignity on their own terms.

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Socialists really hate freedom, don't they? Somehow, it's always "capitalism" in question when it is, in fact, freedom. It's none of the government's business what somebody takes into their body. All drugs should be decriminalized anyway. Smoking and alcohol take millions of lives every year, yet we say "people have the right" to drink or smoke. Why is marijuana different, which is way less dangerous than alcohol, wh…

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