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Re: Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file NLRB complaint

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Post by bb88 »

manlobster wrote: post #16

Googler protests in the past have typically been walk-outs and other outdoor gatherings. This protest took place within the offices. Some of the protestors occupied senior executives' offices for many hours, and had to be removed by the police. Some of the protestors also streamed their protest from within the offices of the notoriously confidentiality-obsessed company. I don't buy the narrative that Google is cracki…

Either way, they're not coming back into the building, and Google would probably rather fight a law suit than dealing with these people personally ever again.

Re: Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file NLRB complaint

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Post by Simulacra »

worried4future wrote: post #9

The meat of it is here: > Google “retaliated against approximately 50 employees and interfered with their Section 7 rights by terminating and/or placing them on administrative leave in response to their protected concerted activity, namely, participation (or perceived participation) in a peaceful, non-disruptive protest that was directly and explicitly connected to their terms and conditions of work,” the complaint r…

It depends. Given the administrations position on such things right now, the NLRA could be used as a intimidation club against Google to settle.

Re: Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file NLRB complaint

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Post by Simulacra »

userbinator wrote: post #79
rufus_foreman wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Their actions achieved nothing of consequence They drew attention to their cause, you're talking about them. You're talking about their cause. >> even from the point of view of someone that supports their views What views of theirs do you support, exactly?

There is such a thing as bad publicity.

Tell that to Kristi Noem...

Re: Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file NLRB complaint

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Post by the_gastropod »

ipaddr wrote: post #40
the_gastropod wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is how it always seems to go. A huge segment of Americans still refer to the George Floyd protests as "George Floyd Riots" that "burned down" cities. It's, obviously, a ridiculous characterization of an overwhelmingly peaceful nation-wide set of protests.

George Floyd Riots overwhelming peaceful? Not if we stick with facts. "arson, vandalism, and looting that occurred between May 26 and June 8 caused approximately $1–2 billion in insured damages nationally, the highest recorded damage from civil disorder in U.S. history, and surpassing the record set during the 1992 Los Angeles riots"

You’re comparing a nationwide set of protests against a single city. Is this number adjusted for inflation? Do you have any idea who caused this damage?

I was arrested in Brooklyn during the protests. I was slammed into the glass window of the Junior’s cheesecake in downtown Brooklyn by several police officers, cracking the window. Who do you figure was blamed for that damage?

We’re watching this scenario repeat right now. Some doofus students at Columbia broke a window, and the media’s losing its mind decrying the “violence”. Meanwhile, the NYPD is coming to the building with bulldozers, tanks, sledgehammers, and tear gas.

(I literally did nothing to get arrested. The charges were dropped before my court case. Shocker)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/05/nearly-all-bla...

Re: Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file NLRB complaint

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Post by rufus_foreman »

userbinator wrote: post #79
rufus_foreman wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Their actions achieved nothing of consequence They drew attention to their cause, you're talking about them. You're talking about their cause. >> even from the point of view of someone that supports their views What views of theirs do you support, exactly?

There is such a thing as bad publicity.

There's such a thing as bad publicity for Google also.

Re: Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file NLRB complaint

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Post by the_gastropod »

haberman wrote: post #38
the_gastropod wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is how it always seems to go. A huge segment of Americans still refer to the George Floyd protests as "George Floyd Riots" that "burned down" cities. It's, obviously, a ridiculous characterization of an overwhelmingly peaceful nation-wide set of protests.

Those "overwhelmingly peaceful" protests caused an estimated $1-2B in property damage, making them the most destructive protests (from an insurance perspective) in the last 50 years: https://www.axios.com/2020/09/16/riots-cost-property-damage

Don’t you find it weird that one of these “riots” locations is “across 20 states”, and the remainder have an actual… y’know, single location? Why are we comparing things this way to exaggerate damages and undermine the overwhelming majority of people peacefully protesting?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/05/nearly-all-bla...

Re: Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file NLRB complaint

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Post by Willish42 »

Georgelemental wrote: post #33
the_gastropod wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is how it always seems to go. A huge segment of Americans still refer to the George Floyd protests as "George Floyd Riots" that "burned down" cities. It's, obviously, a ridiculous characterization of an overwhelmingly peaceful nation-wide set of protests.

The Floyd riots did lead to several deaths and billions of dollars in damage, documentation of that is an internet search away. Completely different from the current round of protests against Israeli brutality (which, unlike "systemic racism", is actually real)

> which, unlike "systemic racism", is actually real

If you truly think the concept of systemic racism does not exist, your warped perspective is probably beyond saving. The term itself dates back to the 60s and has a long history of academic and real-world relevance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_racism

With where political discourse in developed nations has gotten, I really shouldn't be surprised, but I'm still honestly a bit shocked that somebody with access to a computer and presumably an education compatible with working in technology and posting on HN actually doubts that systemic racism exists in a country that has centuries of slavery in its founding history and numerous statistically proven cases of disproportionate policing of certain races of individuals.

What an asinine comment! I don't think being this willfully ignorant is helping your cause here

Re: Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file NLRB complaint

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Post by zeroCalories »

Georgelemental wrote: post #66
zeroCalories wrote: post #57

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Are you suggesting that there aren't Jews that support Hamas? I've known plenty of Uncle Toms and Kapos in my life.

> there aren't Jews that support Hamas There are around 16 million Jews in the world, I'm sure you can find one or two to support more or less anything. But the Uncle Tom/Kapo analogy doesn't work; there are no Jews under Hamas rule (other than the hostages ofc) so there is no incentive for any of them to betray their people in that way.

Of course there is an incentive. You get to reap social capital and get high on your own perceived holiness. Do you think someone like Norman Finkelstein would be so popular if he wasn't a Jew? Or Candace Owens black?

Re: Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file NLRB complaint

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Post by PieTime »

Shekelphile wrote: post #73
hedora wrote: post #53

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A lot of people are spreading a false equivalence between being antisemitic and protesting the slaughter of civilians and children. Does that count?

Israel doesn't slaughter civilians. In fact, asymmetric tactics and terror attacks against civilians is constantly perpetrated by hamas (as evidenced on 10/7)

Look up settlement activities, with armed settlers activity removing family often with the blessing of the IDF.

Re: Google workers fired for protesting Israeli contract file NLRB complaint

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Post by khazhoux »

Shekelphile wrote: post #73
hedora wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of people are spreading a false equivalence between being antisemitic and protesting the slaughter of civilians and children. Does that count?

Israel doesn't slaughter civilians. In fact, asymmetric tactics and terror attacks against civilians is constantly perpetrated by hamas (as evidenced on 10/7)

> Israel doesn't slaughter civilians

It’s hard to square this statement against the 13-to-25,000 estimated (Assoc Press vs Al Jazeera) dead women and children in the last 6 months though. Just objectively speaking, that is a shocking number of civilian deaths even at the low end.

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