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US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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You described a worst-case scenario. I’d rather smoke Marlboro Greens, and I promised myself 20 years ago I’d never spend another penny with them.

the marlboro man has traded in his horse and cowboy hat for some natty dreads and a gravity bong. Joe Camel now sports a wook blanket and a heady crystal wrap. can't wait to see what the overly happy and diverse Newport pleasure party goers have adopted

lol

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Feels like they were keeping this card in their sleeves for when they needed a popularity boost.

They absolutely were. Between 25% inflation, the student loan relief failure, two proxy wars and the current beating of college students across the country, the current administration would have been facing record low turnout in November. I would be surprised if there is not some string attached to this that doesn't take place until after November. That's a good thing though, becuase it was seeming more and more like…

Nobody cares about college protestors, even other young people. It's the second to least important issue in recent polls.

https://iop.harvard.edu/youth-poll/47th-edition-spring-2024

Young people always have bad turnout anyway, so it doesn't matter if they find a new excuse to have it.

(Also they did do student loan reform via SAVE and have forgiven about 9% of loans IIRC. Probably shouldn't have though, it's inflationary, and as you can see from the above poll nobody even appreciates it.)

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

#493

For federal workers in legalized states, will they be able to use?

it's possible that there might be a move to cheek swaps instead of urine tests for routine testing, making it possible to enjoy some recreational pot during off times.

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There you have it, the administrator themselves saying they believe in myths about cannabis: It’s a gateway drug; while simultaneously ignoring that the drug killing people, fent has a perfectly causal gateway drug in vicodin/percs > Jack Riley, a former deputy administrator of the DEA, said he had concerns about the proposed change because he thinks marijuana remains a possible “gateway drug,” one that may lead to t…

I think these 'gateway drug' believers will be pleasantly surprised. One reason it's a gateway drug is because of a line of thought like this: 1) Govt says cannabis is the most dangerous drug. 2) I try cannabis, nothing bad happens. 3) So when the govt says drugs are dangerous, they are incorrect? I guess I can't use their rating system and will have to base it on my own experiences. There is a trust penalty for over…

That or the other 'gateway' pathway:

1) Govt says cannabis is the most dangerous drug.

2) I find someone who will sell me illegal thing.

3) I try cannabis, nothing bad happens.

4) Vendor has other items for sale.

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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As someone who has taken ketamine for medical purposes and marijuana for not, it is utterly off-the-charts bonkers that they are classified identically. A large dose of ketamine literally disconnects yourself from reality. Weed makes you tired.

You think a large dose of weed to someone who's not used to it just makes them tired?

It might make you high, but it won't kill you. It won't even harm you.

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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The transaction fee for a cash transaction is $0 and no time for the consumer. That is the benchmark you are competing against.

Cash transactions require you to make change and are a target for theft. This is neither free nor zero time.

> Cash transactions require you to make change and are a target for theft. This is neither free nor zero time.

That's why I specified "for the consumer", who is typically the person that is going to make a purchasing decision.

Using crypto for dispensaries has been tried, and it hasn't gained traction in the many years that its been an option. If you introduce friction (by forcing people to transact using a novel payment form), you are going to lose customers. The fact that the very few dispensaries that accept crypto continue to accept cash and debit should tell you what consumers like.

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DMT and mescaline too.

Do all of them. To me, government exists to mediate interactions between parties. Not to get involved in personal choices. If someone wants to rip fat lines of coke, good for them. Not my business.

clearly you havent thought of the children /s

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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THEREFORE they will be able to move CASH money out of their stores TO BANKS, resulting in fewer "smash and grab" incidents ... aka, "Hyundai meet storefront of weed shop." Looking forward to this, silly to see so many Kia "boys" being used for gross violence crimes when regulation changes could lessen it. > https://www.king5.com/article/news/crime/seattle-pot-shop-cr... for example

First line in your link: >"The owner says around $15,000 of products and items were stolen from the store." It doesn't mention anything about cash. "Smash and grab" in weed shops doesn't usually have much to do with having piles of cash sitting around (though I'm sure that might happen too) - it's the product that thieves want to steal because it's got no serial numbers, it's pretty light-weight and easy to run out w…

Cash has to leave the building at some point.

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> What's the measurement for success? It's not "the number of people who try hard drugs", which isn't a particularly interesting or meaningful number (lots of people, including myself, try hard drugs but never end up hooked on them and are productive members of society). Try "the amount of harm caused to society". The drug war destroys more lives than hard drugs. It's a policy failure.

> The drug war destroys more lives than hard drugs. It's a policy failure. Again, this does not seem as clear as you attempt to present it. In areas with decriminalized hard drugs, drug usage dramatically increased. It has a direct impact on the lives of the users, and also secondary impacts on the lives of everyone around them and/or has to deal with them. Drug usage is not the so-called "victimless" crime some posi…

Are you familiar with prohibition and its effects in the US?

It wasn’t successful and massively contributed to the proliferation of organized crime.

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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It is a gateway drug. When marijuana is illegal you have to get it from drug dealers, who have an incentive to upsell you to harder stuff. Make it legal and that gateway goes away.

Anecdote: I've had countless dealers over 20 years in many countries and continents, not once has someone tried to sell me anything else (besides hash). It's always been some cheery barefoot guy with dreads growing it in his closet. Now that it's legal in Germany I'm going to grow my own, and experience the (surprisingly common!) miracle of harvesting the exact legal limit of 25 grams from 3 plants ;)

However, if you wanted something other than weed, you would have someone who may be able to help you out
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