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US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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As Terence McKenna used to say, caffeine is legal because it keeps the worker bees working throughout the afternoon.

I think this is why North Korea allows marijuana and meth.

Can you give some evidence for that? Curious

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> I hope all these small/mid sized businesses don’t get gulped up by big tobacco or other mega corps Calling it: CVS and Walgreens will move into the medical market for this. You think these little shops will be able to process health insurance payments when that sector gets in on it? lol

I bet that in the US, no health insurer will ever pay for an insured person's marijuana.

I bet that CBD will be covered very quickly, because it really does work very well for so many things, so it shouldn't take long to have enough studies clearly in support of it.

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It is the only practical measure of true public opinion. You can also, by extension, infer that roughly 47% of Americans think sexual assault is acceptable and that democracy is undesirable. It may not be what they say or even what they think but it is reflected in what they do.

It isn't practical by any means, it's unnecessarily reductionist, even when one doesn't consider the numerous innate biases involved in polling. People are multidimensional but American Presidential politics forces them into a binary decision. Yet there are numerous reasons why people who support abortion might not vote for Biden. They may support abortion but not believe Biden is a credible choice to defend abortion…

Yes, this is exactly the problem with our "representative" democracy. For example, one polarizing issue this year may be whether a voter is willing to accept a candidate who acts like a mob boss or not, regardless of any other issue that the candidates are trying to stand on. Worse yet, elected candidates then have difficulty knowing which of the multidimensional issues mattered to their voters because all the information has been lost by the polarizing election system.

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Serious question: Do you feel just as strongly about alcohol, nicotine, gambling and sugar? Those all have an enormous societal costs as well.

I've seen way too much harm done by alcohol than good. Unfortunately, it's already normalised since ages, but I'm glad it's getting regarded in a negative light more and more. People complain about being sent to jail for weed as if this they are suffering a political persecution, but people can get in legal trouble for drinking alcohol in public places or illegally producing or selling it as well. In some European co…

>In some European countries, if both parents are caught drinking alcohol at the same time, even just beer, they'll be stripped of their parental rights.

Which countries exactly? Never heard of that

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America should have a long hard look at why it takes so long to do something that would have been considered "reasonable" by most of the country 15 years ago.

But that's factually untrue. Gallup polled support for legalization being in the minority, as recently as 2010. [1] Now factor in the demographics of voters vs adults in general, and the timeline is the opposite of surprising. [1] New High of 46% of Americans Support Legalizing Marijuana https://news.gallup.com/poll/144086/new-high-americans-suppo...

Since when is majority support the same thing as reasonable??

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Unlikely in the near term. As I understand it, rescheduling to Schedule III would mean that marijuana (and marijuana-based products) can be sold with a prescription. But, for a doctor to prescribe something, it needs FDA approval. I don't know when/if FDA will approve any marijuana-based treatments. And even if they did, this would not authorize recreational use.

you can get a prescription for marijuana within 15 mins of walking into a doctors office. we are past the peak of this, but 10 years ago you used to be able to go to a doctor that did nothing but marijuana prescriptions. and the line was out the door to the office. you walk in, pay $100-$150, and walk out with a prescription for 1 year

> you can get a prescription for marijuana within 15 mins of walking into a doctors office.

Not one that will work for the purposes of the Controlled Substances Act, as I understand it. I believe permissible use of a Schedule III has to be pursuant to a doctor's prescription for an FDA approved drug.

See this useful report: https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB11105

  Moving marijuana from Schedule I to Schedule III, without other legal changes, would not bring the state-legal medical or recreational marijuana industry into compliance with federal controlled substances law. With respect to medical marijuana, a key difference between placement in Schedule I and Schedule III is that substances in Schedule III have an accepted medical use and may lawfully be dispensed by prescription, while Substances in Schedule I cannot. However, prescription drugs must be approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Although FDA has approved some drugs derived from or related to cannabis, marijuana itself is not an FDA-approved drug. Moreover, if one or more marijuana products obtained FDA approval, manufacturers and distributors would need to register with DEA and comply with regulatory requirements that apply to Schedule III substances in order to handle those products. Users of medical marijuana would need to obtain valid prescriptions for the substance from medical providers, subject to federal legal requirements that differ from existing state regulatory requirements for medical marijuana.

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Weed being illegal on a federal level has had some interesting effects. Because of these laws, all legal weed has to be grown, processed, and retailed within a single state. So much industry and local employment has been created by the legal barriers in place. It’s probably still a net positive to release the federal restriction, but I hope all these small/mid sized businesses don’t get gulped up by big tobacco or ot…

This discrepancy had the effect of jump starting the prominence of large chinese gangs in the marijuana and fentany and money laundering business in the USA, incidentally contributing to home shortage because they bought homes in California to grow pre pandemic and in Oklahoma now. There’s lots of older articles about California but some recent OK news https://www.kosu.org/news/2024-03-18/gangsters-money-and-mur...

Interesting use of italics

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No sane person uses Bitcoin as a currency because it is a fundamentally unsound ponzi scheme for suckers. I don't want my salary to be subject to the vagaries and manipulations of the Bitcoin exchange rate.

If you don't want to hold Bitcoin or be exposed to price changes, you can set your hourly rate in dollars, be paid at the current exchange rate and immediately convert it back into dollars. The advantage of this over being paid in physical cash is that it's electronic and then you're not carrying two weeks salary in physical cash on your person for somebody to mug you.

two weeks salary in physical cash

How expensive do you think weed is? You can get baked every day for two weeks for $50, probably less

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> based on current polls Citation needed. Current polls indicate that "[t]wo-thirds of the public, including majorities of Democrats (86%) and independents (67%), support a law guaranteeing a federal right to abortion." Source: https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/poll-finding/kff-he... > Even if there's an opinion poll [...] that's effectively moot if they don't vote that way. Weirdly, your own argument is rende…

By current polls, I mean the ones showing Trump even or slightly ahead of Biden despite him being directly responsible for Dobbs. If 2/3 of the public wanted abortion rights, Biden would have 2/3 of the popular vote, but he won't get anywhere near that. Hence, most people don't want Roe reinstated. QED.

You are making the mistake that people understand how our government works or are paying much attention at all. I've video of some voters blaming Biden for the overturn of Roe v Wade because it happened during Biden's term. If voters were properly informed across the board Biden, and most democrats, would win in a landslide. There are many active forces, foreign and domestic, which put serious effort and money into deliberately misinforming the populace, because they are incredibly selfish, and care only for their personal gain, regardless of how many are harmed, and to what degree.

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A third of the population, 111 million citizens, do not want it legalized. I wouldn't consider that "popular among everyone". https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/10/facts-abo...

Your own link says it's 70% in favor of legalization and 29% against. 29% is as close to "a quarter of the population" as it is to "a third of the population" - 400 basis points. Putting it another way nearly 3 quarters of citizens want it legalized. That's massive. It's as close to unanimous consensus as you can get on a hot-button issue like drugs.

So, just to clarify, you're actually taking issue with me referring to 29% as one third, while you have no issue referring to 70% as 100%? Either way, there's still over a hundred million human beings living in your country that disagree with you. Call it whatever you want but don't dismiss it.
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