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US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Post by wnevets »

mattmaroon wrote: post #359
wnevets wrote: post #151

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That's a fairly a common practice for cash only businesses, normally a different company is supplying the ATM and its cash. For example I've seen cash only ice cream shops with the same setup.

That's not what he's describing. In this case there actually is no cash or traditional ATM involved on-site. It's connected to the dispensary POS, not a physical ATM. (They often have a regular ATM like you describe also, though.) So you do an ATM transaction, but the money goes to the dispensary somehow. I do not know how it works on the back end, but I've used it as a customer. It's lovely and can even be done over…

Oh interesting. Does it appear on your end as a cash advance when using a credit card?

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Post by vips7L »

lambdaba wrote: post #255
a_wild_dandan wrote: post #246

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Do all of them. To me, government exists to mediate interactions between parties. Not to get involved in personal choices. If someone wants to rip fat lines of coke, good for them. Not my business.

We don't live in libertarian utopia, let's first focus on substances that are *obviously* misclassified, the ones cited before have actual benefits, the most obvious one being psilocybin.

Do they need to have benefits? Whether they are beneficial or not people are using drugs like MDMA. Making them illegal has only caused harm.

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Post by shkkmo »

jkaplowitz wrote: post #313
beaeglebeachh wrote: post #227

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'without a DEA licensed rx and dea licensing' Rx under DEA scrutiny is nothing like rec or laughable state controlled medical 'recommendations'. You pull that shit as a provider on controlled scripts and your charts get audited, your DEA license gets pulled.

But it does mean that it will actually, for the first time ever in living memory, be possible for someone to fully federally legally possess a THC-active form of cannabis without further Congressional action. I'm not sure if a state-legal cannabis supply chain could be fully federally legal in this context, but imagine if a pharma company goes through the FDA approval process for a THC pill and then doctors prescribe…

> it will actually, for the first time ever in living memory, be possible for someone to fully federally legally possess a THC-active form of cannabis without further Congressional action.

Interesting point of history, the Federal US Government has actually been running a small medical program for almost 50 years. https://www.mpp.org/policy/federal/federal-governments-medic...

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

kstrauser wrote: post #241
defiamazing wrote: post #202

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I don’t get why they don’t just use Bitcoin or Ethereum.

Mainly because your employees, suppliers, and landlord have no desire to be paid in Bitcoin.

What does that matter? You can convert Bitcoin into cash. But then you can do that in an undisclosed location at your leisure instead of keeping a mountain of cash in your publicly advertised storefront location and becoming a huge robbery target.

Also, it doesn't seem like it would be that hard to find someone to accept it as payment, since they can convert it to cash too. And the sort of landlords/suppliers/employees willing to do business with a dispensary seem like exactly the sort who would accept Bitcoin.

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

bawolff wrote: post #354
jkaplowitz wrote: post #307

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The difference is in Canada it's actually fully legal at all levels of government, so the transaction is a normal point of sale transaction, it can also go through a credit card as a normal purchase without being subjected to the expensive cash advance interest rates, and so on. It can even be a tax-deductible and reimbursable business entertainment expense under similar conditions to alcohol.

Its super weird how america can make things half legal. In canada the responsibilities are divided up between different levels of government. None of this legal at one level but not another level bullshit.

It was supposed to be that way in the US but then populists decided they wanted the federal government to do all the things the constitution said it couldn't.

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Post by Spivak »

flawsofar wrote: post #381
mattmaroon wrote: post #367

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My brother supervises at a dispensary. They are not attractive robbery targets at all. They have a lot of security. Like a bank, they expect the amount of cash would bring trouble if they were not prepared. Unlike a bank, they don't dispense much cash (just petty change) so they don't even have to leave much in the drawers, which are emptied frequently and dropped into a safe nobody there can access. They have cash-h…

> you can imagine who works at them This is disgracefully elitist. White collar crime hurts more people.

Golden rule of customer service is you can not demand service while simultaneously degrading the people who provide it to you.

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Post by andrewxdiamond »

wnevets wrote: post #411
mattmaroon wrote: post #359

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not what he's describing. In this case there actually is no cash or traditional ATM involved on-site. It's connected to the dispensary POS, not a physical ATM. (They often have a regular ATM like you describe also, though.) So you do an ATM transaction, but the money goes to the dispensary somehow. I do not know how it works on the back end, but I've used it as a customer. It's lovely and can even be done over…

Oh interesting. Does it appear on your end as a cash advance when using a credit card?

Nope. ATM withdrawal. My bank even reimburses the ATM fee associated with it

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Post by ddp26 »

ceejayoz wrote: post #382
ddp26 wrote: post #351

I did some AI-assisted research on this, and have come to the following tentative conclusions: 1. The re-scheduling will happen (90%), the administrative hurdles will be cleared. Only counterexample I could find was Kratom in 2016, which was the reverse of this situation, and the DEA dropped the proposal at the public comment stage. 2. Trump will not reverse it if elected (80%). He's been pro-states-rights on cannabi…

And what did the AI cite as sources for these conclusions?

These conclusions are mine, based on research the AI did. None of these probabilities were directly output, it simply found lots of news articles, made simple models, researched what people have said & done historically.

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Post by czscout »

andrewxdiamond wrote: post #417
wnevets wrote: post #411

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Oh interesting. Does it appear on your end as a cash advance when using a credit card?

Nope. ATM withdrawal. My bank even reimburses the ATM fee associated with it

An ATM withdrawal with a credit card is a cash advance.

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Post by dgunay »

paxys wrote: post #128
colpabar wrote: post #120

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What bothers me is that all these things are only happening because it's an election year and the incumbent doesn't have great polling numbers.

Well, politicians doing what people want in order to get reelected is kinda the point of democracy.

Yeah, but based on the guiding principle of democracy (govt by the will of the people), you'd hope to see them do that immediately instead of waiting years and years to do it when it is most strategically advantageous. I know politics is gamey like that by nature, but it sucks to see. The lag time between a policy becoming overwhelmingly popular and it actually being implemented is often long enough to radically alter the course of millions of peoples' lives.
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