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US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Post by BobaFloutist »

cflewis wrote: post #87
Liquix wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

sure, marijuana shouldn't be considered 100% harmless, but it's ludicrous to argue it does the same amount of damage to people's bodies as ketamine (abuse can lead to kidney failure, bladder cystectomy) or even some sched. IV substances such as alprazolam (seizures from withdrawal can be fatal).

As someone who has taken ketamine for medical purposes and marijuana for not, it is utterly off-the-charts bonkers that they are classified identically. A large dose of ketamine literally disconnects yourself from reality. Weed makes you tired.

You think a large dose of weed to someone who's not used to it just makes them tired?

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

krapp wrote: post #237
chucksta wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tell that to all the people pissed off at Roe v Wade

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OK, but at the time of Roe v. Wade, I don't think the majority of people wanted abortion legalized, either. I'm not sure the majority of people wanted gay marriage legalized (at the time).

But even more: You don't want the judges to be focused on what the majority want. That's not the rule of law.

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Post by rascul »

sanderjd wrote: post #145
paxys wrote: post #102

On one hand I'm very happy with all the recent policy changes coming down from different federal agencies, but on the other there's a very high likelihood that they will all be reversed a few months from now if/when a new administration takes over. That is always the downside of executive rule. With Congress unwilling/incapable of acting though I guess this is the best we'll get.

This kind of rule should be made by an executive agency, empowered by a congressional delegation of that rule-making power to that agency. This is just the same principle as private organization boards of directors delegating the minutia of running the organization to the executives and their teams. If you think it would be madness for hiring decisions on individual contributors to be made by board votes, then you sh…

> voters remain free to replace the executive the next time around

Note that there are only either 538 or 100 voters, depending on which position in the executive branch.

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Post by MarCylinder »

cm2012 wrote: post #65
andrewxdiamond wrote: post #6

Weed being illegal on a federal level has had some interesting effects. Because of these laws, all legal weed has to be grown, processed, and retailed within a single state. So much industry and local employment has been created by the legal barriers in place. It’s probably still a net positive to release the federal restriction, but I hope all these small/mid sized businesses don’t get gulped up by big tobacco or ot…

Being gulped up big corporations is good. They will much more efficiently serve the market. SMBs are notoriously unproductive. Though maybe you want your drug dealers to be unproductive, for society's sake! I may take this back...

Corporate dispensaries, which are very prevalent, are notoriously lower quality

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Post by cryptonector »

andrewxdiamond wrote: post #6

Weed being illegal on a federal level has had some interesting effects. Because of these laws, all legal weed has to be grown, processed, and retailed within a single state. So much industry and local employment has been created by the legal barriers in place. It’s probably still a net positive to release the federal restriction, but I hope all these small/mid sized businesses don’t get gulped up by big tobacco or ot…

Under Wickard even all-in-state marijuana trade would still fall under the Interstate Commerce clause and be subject to federal criminal statutes, regulations, and taxes.

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Post by lukeinator42 »

jjcm wrote: post #262
xp84 wrote: post #170

From the article: "Then there’s the United States’ international treaty obligations, chief among them the 1961 Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs, which requires the criminalization of cannabis." Ah, I see. Somehow I doubt that if the US announced it would withdraw from this treaty, to be replaced by an amended version, we'd be invaded immediately by all our (former) allies and be driven straight into the sea. Like,…

Canada got told "shame on you" when they legalized. That seems to be about the extent of the ramifications: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Narcotics_Contro...

I was curious if us Canadians were on that treaty, haha.

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Post by fragmede »

akira2501 wrote: post #272
creaturemachine wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet alcohol remains legal.

You're welcome to start making your own alcohol and then selling shots on the street. I'm sure you'll notice the difference very quickly.

Compared to selling hard drugs on the street? Technically what you're describing is against the law, but given that people are selling hard drugs on the street, I doubt you could get the cops to care.

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Post by beaeglebeachh »

denimnerd42 wrote: post #260
coffeebeqn wrote: post #190

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Do they have jurisdiction to go and do that?

sure they do. for example it's illegal to be in possession of marijuana and a firearm. the purchase of said MJ would be pretty good evidence that could lead to other warrants. That's the Hunter Biden gun charge.

It's oddly not. Only to be a user or addict with a firearm. IIRC if you just like the way weed looks in your hand that doesn't make you a user, and there's plenty of reasonable doubt you're guarding it for grandma or whoever.

Of course people are still being convicted of weed and firearm, but it gets recorded as gun law violation and nobody cares, cuz left hates guns and right hates weed, so they'll never repeal it.

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