For federal workers in legalized states, will they be able to use?
US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana
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#202One major effect of this is that weed stores will be able to use banks and payment processors legally once the regulators catch up.
I don’t get why they don’t just use Bitcoin or Ethereum.
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#203Utter bullshit. Reclassifying schedule 1 Drugs requires the approval of the Commission on Narcotic Drugs of the UN. Otherwise, they are just reclassifying it under an already reclassified treaty structure as a red herring. The Psychotropic Substances Act modified the existing schedule, but left other acts in tact - those other acts are the ones being modified by this nonsense circus.
Well the UN has already done that, moving it from Schedule IV to Schedule I. Note that the schedules are reversed in the UN's system. So it appears that US rescheduling would bring drug policy closer into alignment with the UN than before. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/02/world/europe/cannabis-uni... Now, there may be some procedural red tape to go through, but it would be odd for the UN to reject such a change whe…
That's under a different treaty. You're falling for the bamboozle.
This is the origin of what you're talking about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Convention_on_Narcotic_...
Which is what this was based on: https://www.who.int/teams/health-product-and-policy-standard...
Which was the impetus for what you're talking about.
Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana
#204One major effect of this is that weed stores will be able to use banks and payment processors legally once the regulators catch up.
A lot of them have wiggled around this problem by offering “atms” at the cash register. You pay with a debit card, but it’s not a normal transaction, it’s an ATM withdrawal! I don’t understand how the money is vended to the business, but it keeps it out of the store
The ATM is usually registered to a different business around the corner or something like that.
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#205I'm sorry but after seeing how american gradually get into worse and worse drugs, and seeing channel 5's video on people using tranq... yeah I think complete ban on drugs for non medical reasons is the best choice.
I've watched the same videos, and the impression I got was that the main gateway drug for tranq was prescription painkillers prescribed legally by a doctor. Maybe we should consider banning drugs for medical reasons too...
Outpatient opiods being prescribed to the degree they were 20 years ago was clearly wrong in hindsight.
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#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm quite ignorant about how international law and treaties interact with domestic policy. Could you educate me? What is the mechanism within US law by which this reclassification requires approval by that UN commission?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychotropic_Substances_Act_(U... The above link is the Act that governs the USA's international obligations based on our treaty with the UN to schedule specific drugs and under those terms only allowed to reschedule Schedule 1 drugs with the approval of the UN; often after a review of the drugs medicinal purposes by the WHO. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_Drug_Abuse_Preve..…
Thank you for the links!
I'm hoping other knowledgeable people will also weigh in on this topic.
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#207I'm sorry but after seeing how american gradually get into worse and worse drugs, and seeing channel 5's video on people using tranq... yeah I think complete ban on drugs for non medical reasons is the best choice.
In addition to prohibition being impossible (and a policy failure in every case where it has been tried, without a single historical exception - one of the most consistent policy outcomes in all of political science), it also isn't cognizable to define the word "drug" for the purposes of your calculus here.
Would you ban coffee? How about sugar?
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#208Finally! Then hopefully the f... UN can do that too. I'm totally shocked that the UN has such a hard and shitty drug policy.
Forgive my ignorance, but why does anyone care what the UN thinks about this subject? They cannot, and will not do anything about anything anyway...
It's a matter of treaty law. States punched out a treaty on drugs and then promised each other to stick to it, pressuring other states to buy in.
Leaving a treaty means you change your relation to the other signatories and possibly a regulatory body that took part in developing the treaty. Sometimes it's cheap, sometimes it's been a justification for horrible atrocities over decades and decades.
In this case the latter is true. Ditching the UN convention is almost like saying you owe a lot of people restitution for the nasty things you did.
Which is why the UN needs to take the blame for the convention on drugs to go away, the signatories most likely won't.
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#209Great, now do psilocybin, LSD and MDMA.
Please. It's insane that people are dying from fentanyl overdoses taking molly, absolutely not the right societal trade off to be making any more.
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#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
This kind of rule should be made by an executive agency, empowered by a congressional delegation of that rule-making power to that agency. This is just the same principle as private organization boards of directors delegating the minutia of running the organization to the executives and their teams. If you think it would be madness for hiring decisions on individual contributors to be made by board votes, then you sh…
That only works if the rulemaking happens based on scientific reason rather than politics.
... no, it works in general, for the reasons I went into in my comment.