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Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Post by RyanAdamas »

sanderjd wrote: post #160
RyanAdamas wrote: post #133

Utter bullshit. Reclassifying schedule 1 Drugs requires the approval of the Commission on Narcotic Drugs of the UN. Otherwise, they are just reclassifying it under an already reclassified treaty structure as a red herring. The Psychotropic Substances Act modified the existing schedule, but left other acts in tact - those other acts are the ones being modified by this nonsense circus.

I'm quite ignorant about how international law and treaties interact with domestic policy. Could you educate me? What is the mechanism within US law by which this reclassification requires approval by that UN commission?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychotropic_Substances_Act_(U... The above link is the Act that governs the USA's international obligations based on our treaty with the UN to schedule specific drugs and under those terms only allowed to reschedule Schedule 1 drugs with the approval of the UN; often after a review of the drugs medicinal purposes by the WHO.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_Drug_Abuse_Preve... The above is a "DEA" schedule of drug classifications that the government can play around with and bullshit us on. Many of Cannabis schedules have already been reduced based on specific compounds of THC under other treaties enacted before the 1978 alignment from above. These domestic rescheduling may have an affect on legal charges or banking, but cannot address the overarching classifier of Schedule 1 drugs which is the UN based on the 1st link.

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Post by ethbr1 »

andrewxdiamond wrote: post #93
mannyv wrote: post #56

One major effect of this is that weed stores will be able to use banks and payment processors legally once the regulators catch up.

A lot of them have wiggled around this problem by offering “atms” at the cash register. You pay with a debit card, but it’s not a normal transaction, it’s an ATM withdrawal! I don’t understand how the money is vended to the business, but it keeps it out of the store

Signs that times are a' changing -- you can buy illegal drugs with a card now.

(Call me crazy and old-fashioned, but I don't think I'd want 50+ illegally-correlated transactions on my financial record that the government could lump into other charges...)

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Post by alistairSH »

ikekkdcjkfke wrote: post #108

Is the weed strength so strong these days that actually it should at this class

Are most users smoking the plant directly, or using vapes or edibles (which typically have a known dose)?

Regardless, stronger plant just means you smoke less to get the effect, right? It's not so strong that a single puff puts you in the ground.

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Post by bobthepanda »

andrewxdiamond wrote: post #93
mannyv wrote: post #56

One major effect of this is that weed stores will be able to use banks and payment processors legally once the regulators catch up.

A lot of them have wiggled around this problem by offering “atms” at the cash register. You pay with a debit card, but it’s not a normal transaction, it’s an ATM withdrawal! I don’t understand how the money is vended to the business, but it keeps it out of the store

there is still a lot of cash on site due to the presence of an ATM though, and in the cash registers. the primary problem is that weed shops are incredibly attractive robbery targets due to being one of the few businesses in 2024 that handle large amounts of cash.

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Post by RyanAdamas »

byteknight wrote: post #159
RyanAdamas wrote: post #133

Utter bullshit. Reclassifying schedule 1 Drugs requires the approval of the Commission on Narcotic Drugs of the UN. Otherwise, they are just reclassifying it under an already reclassified treaty structure as a red herring. The Psychotropic Substances Act modified the existing schedule, but left other acts in tact - those other acts are the ones being modified by this nonsense circus.

Legitimate question: How is it nonsense if it is still treated, currently, as a S1? If this changes anything it's not nonsense.

I answered your question in the other comment.

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Post by aidenn0 »

morley wrote: post #27
RankingMember wrote: post #20

While it being moved to Schedule ~II~ (Correction: III) rather than removed altogether is a bit disappointing, I'm not gonna miss the forest for the trees on this one: this is a big deal after all this time.

It's moving to schedule III, though the new company it's in really highlights how it should be descheduled instead: > It moves pot to Schedule III, alongside ketamine and some anabolic steroids Hopefully the first step but not the last.

So now it is de-jure easier to get than ADHD meds instead of just de-facto easier.

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Post by coffeebeqn »

mannyv wrote: post #56

One major effect of this is that weed stores will be able to use banks and payment processors legally once the regulators catch up.

Hopefully this will also help internationally. Many countries are just copying what the US is doing since they run a large part of world commerce and finance

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Post by alexilliamson »

booleandilemma wrote: post #135
kstrauser wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People wanna get high. There's a plausible hypothesis that we invented farming to have a more reliable way to make beer. We have 2 main options: 1. Attempt to ban it. 2. Accept that people are going to get high, and try to limit the harm. The first has been a complete and utter disaster. The second -- e.g. applying the same rules about who can use it and where they can use it as alcohol -- is the only sane option. Pr…

3. Make our society so pleasant to live in that people want to experience their day-to-day lives with their minds free from drugs.

This is the "limiting harm" part of 2.

Re: US drug control agency will move to reclassify marijuana

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Post by coffeebeqn »

ethbr1 wrote: post #182
andrewxdiamond wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of them have wiggled around this problem by offering “atms” at the cash register. You pay with a debit card, but it’s not a normal transaction, it’s an ATM withdrawal! I don’t understand how the money is vended to the business, but it keeps it out of the store

Signs that times are a' changing -- you can buy illegal drugs with a card now. (Call me crazy and old-fashioned, but I don't think I'd want 50+ illegally-correlated transactions on my financial record that the government could lump into other charges...)

Do they have jurisdiction to go and do that?
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