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Brown economists: Ancestral history explains roots of income inequality

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Re: Brown economists: Ancestral history explains roots of income inequality

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Interesting results, wrong conclusions. Plus they didn't separate cause and effect.

"He demonstrated tht [sic] the number of years since a society made the transition from hunting and gathering to agriculture is highly correlated to the level of income in the country today. That is, the earlier the agriculture development, the higher the income."

Or exactly the other way around - the better the person is at producing, the earlier they managed to switch to agriculture. Or in less politically correct terms, the smarter the people, the more they make today, and the earlier they managed to figure out agriculture.

"Second, the influence of population origins suggests that there is something that human families and communities transmit from generation to generation — perhaps a form of economic culture, a set of attitudes or beliefs, or informally transmitted capabilities — that is of at least similar importance to economic success as are more widely recognized factors like quantities of physical capital and even human capital in the narrower sense of formal schooling. If we understand which culturally transmitted factors are important and what contributes to their emergence and propagation, we might be able to design policy interventions that could help less successful groups and countries to close their developmental gaps."

Uh hu. Or maybe they are just smarter, and intelligence is heritable.

But they can't say that since it basically means that there is nothing poor counties can do, except encourage immigration and intermarriage. So they make a fluff feel-good conclusion.

Re: Brown economists: Ancestral history explains roots of income inequality

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I dunno, maybe they should look into if maybe Europe invading the rest of the world and killing off various percentages of the populations could be a factor?

Uhh, dude, if you read your history then pretty much everywhere has invaded everywhere else at some point, and populations that aren't being invaded are just as often killing each other.

So while it happens, it's not a data point here.

Re: Brown economists: Ancestral history explains roots of income inequality

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post #5
post #4

I dunno, maybe they should look into if maybe Europe invading the rest of the world and killing off various percentages of the populations could be a factor?

Uhh, dude, if you read your history then pretty much everywhere has invaded everywhere else at some point, and populations that aren't being invaded are just as often killing each other. So while it happens, it's not a data point here.

Sure, but I'd guess that there's a difference if resources are transferred back and forth within a small region, i.e. neighboring countries warring for a few hundred years, compared to some other country far away taking the resources with them after a successful invasion. And then continue to take everything they can get their hands on for the next few hundred years... It pools the resources in a single place, and as a result it also pools the ability to refine those resources in the same place (because its pretty hard to learn refining if you don't have anything to refine). Maybe it could be compared to how a town supported by resource producing villages made it possible to specialize in a trade that wasn't viable in a village setting.

And the killing off part was mostly a reference to diseases brought (without intention) to the Americas that more or less killed the civilizations there.

But maybe I'm just brainwashed by the people on the left.

Re: Brown economists: Ancestral history explains roots of income inequality

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post #5
post #4

I dunno, maybe they should look into if maybe Europe invading the rest of the world and killing off various percentages of the populations could be a factor?

Uhh, dude, if you read your history then pretty much everywhere has invaded everywhere else at some point, and populations that aren't being invaded are just as often killing each other. So while it happens, it's not a data point here.

Uhh, dude, if you read your history then pretty much everywhere has invaded everywhere else at some point

Not really. Europeans essentially invaded and colonized the western hemisphere, Africa, India, Australia, etc... and yet none of the reverse happened. The Aztecs did not land on the shores of Spain. The Zulu did not invade France. (About the closest you can point to is the Turks besieging Vienna.) If you've ever wondered why europe dominated the new world & africa and not vice versa, I highly recommend Jared Diamond's "Guns, Germs, and Steel."

Re: Brown economists: Ancestral history explains roots of income inequality

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> that there is something that human families and communities transmit from generation to generation -- perhaps a form of economic culture, a set of attitudes or beliefs, or informally transmitted capabilities

Hmmm, what ELSE might be transmitted from generation to generation. I just can't put my finger on it...

Re: Brown economists: Ancestral history explains roots of income inequality

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post #2

Interesting results, wrong conclusions. Plus they didn't separate cause and effect. "He demonstrated tht [sic] the number of years since a society made the transition from hunting and gathering to agriculture is highly correlated to the level of income in the country today. That is, the earlier the agriculture development, the higher the income." Or exactly the other way around - the better the person is at producing…

I again recommend Jared Diamond's "Guns, Germs and Steel," for the refutation of "they were just smarter" argument.
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