Perhaps knowing the car ahead of you may brake suddenly outside of human control will break the habit of tailgating!
U.S. to require automatic emergency braking on new vehicles in 5 years
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Re: U.S. to require automatic emergency braking on new vehicles in 5 years
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
He's out of line but he's right though. EU economic growth keeps falling further and further behind the US since the post 2008 crash. Sure, we have higher quality of life, but all those social services that make that still require a growing performant economy to keep up with their rising costs, otherwise they'll have to be cut (and a lot are) or we'll have to go into a spiraling taxation and debt trap.
I'm sure the parents and family of dead people on US roads are happy because the economy has been doing well. Especially with all the hard proof available it's the lack of automated braking that's been driving their economic happiness.
People die on the roads everywhere regardless of their nation's economy.
Maybe the US should restrict those Monster Pickup Trucks with shit pedestrian safety off the road, and make the tests for driver's licenses more stricter instead of handing them out like candy.
Re: U.S. to require automatic emergency braking on new vehicles in 5 years
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is true but it can’t be more than part of the explanation: pretty much everywhere else has phones but has seen declining fatality rates.
The US has heavier cars to skirt around regulations and no public transit infrastructure.
Yes, and worse pedestrian infrastructure, very limited law enforcement, and lax driver licensing. There isn’t a single fix which is going to make our roads as safe as, say, Germany but progress in any area will help.
Re: U.S. to require automatic emergency braking on new vehicles in 5 years
#44The only experience I have with automatic emergency braking was with a large box truck several years ago. It was quite horrible, false positives often, and never was necessary. Once it braked for no apparent reason while going downhill around a turn and almost caused us to wreck since the truck didn't turn as well under heavy braking. I hope better implementations exist.
Yeah this technology ain't mature in any way, 99% or 99,9% is simply not good enough to deploy anywhere en masse. Lane assists, braking, collision recognition - I've seen false positives, I've seen no reaction where there should be one. By far the safest driving for me is simply having experience and no assistants enabled, ever. I know this begs question how to get to that level, these flawed helpers can maybe statis…
Yet, those 1% or 0.1% false positives, even if they kill the car's occupants, may still reduce the aggregate number of deaths. I expect government to make choices that are best for society at large, rather than for any individual.
Re: U.S. to require automatic emergency braking on new vehicles in 5 years
#45All this technology has the effect of pushing up the cost of vehicles, often for questionable minor safety improvements. Is there a good analysis of why the road safety trend has gone the wrong way in the US lately?
This is protectionism for the voting block in Detroit. You'll see this sort of thing every 4 years. I'm guessing patents and the like have already decided who the winner of this rule is and it probably isn't automobile buyers in the US.
Even if true, who cares, if it means fewer preventable fatalities?
Re: U.S. to require automatic emergency braking on new vehicles in 5 years
#46Perhaps knowing the car ahead of you may brake suddenly outside of human control will break the habit of tailgating!
> Perhaps knowing the car ahead of you may brake suddenly outside of human control will break the habit of tailgating!
But tailgating is how you know a cop is unhappy with you.
Re: U.S. to require automatic emergency braking on new vehicles in 5 years
#47The only experience I have with automatic emergency braking was with a large box truck several years ago. It was quite horrible, false positives often, and never was necessary. Once it braked for no apparent reason while going downhill around a turn and almost caused us to wreck since the truck didn't turn as well under heavy braking. I hope better implementations exist.
Yeah this technology ain't mature in any way, 99% or 99,9% is simply not good enough to deploy anywhere en masse. Lane assists, braking, collision recognition - I've seen false positives, I've seen no reaction where there should be one. By far the safest driving for me is simply having experience and no assistants enabled, ever. I know this begs question how to get to that level, these flawed helpers can maybe statis…
This hasn’t been my experience. And like anything else, turn it off if you don’t like it and don’t buy the vehicle with poorly implemented technology.
Re: U.S. to require automatic emergency braking on new vehicles in 5 years
#48All this technology has the effect of pushing up the cost of vehicles, often for questionable minor safety improvements. Is there a good analysis of why the road safety trend has gone the wrong way in the US lately?
The cost here is pretty trivial from my understanding. It’s essentially just a vision system that can send a brake command. Aka a camera behind the mirror and a microprocessor. Much of the other components are already present on modern vehicles.
> The cost here is pretty trivial from my understanding.
The cost to implement it or the cost to make it utterly bulletproof?
Re: U.S. to require automatic emergency braking on new vehicles in 5 years
#49All this technology has the effect of pushing up the cost of vehicles, often for questionable minor safety improvements. Is there a good analysis of why the road safety trend has gone the wrong way in the US lately?
The cost here is pretty trivial from my understanding. It’s essentially just a vision system that can send a brake command. Aka a camera behind the mirror and a microprocessor. Much of the other components are already present on modern vehicles.
This requires a automotive grade camera with connection to the can Bus.
This might not be expensive per se but is still a few hundred bucks.
For a small car this can easily be a few percent extra.
Re: U.S. to require automatic emergency braking on new vehicles in 5 years
#50The only experience I have with automatic emergency braking was with a large box truck several years ago. It was quite horrible, false positives often, and never was necessary. Once it braked for no apparent reason while going downhill around a turn and almost caused us to wreck since the truck didn't turn as well under heavy braking. I hope better implementations exist.
I have it in my Subaru Forrester and it's... OK? It has saved me from near collision twice, but also triggered false positives a few times. The false positives never led to actual breaking, just to the loud peeping before the breaking starts: usually triggered by a going too fast into sharp curve with a warning sign next to the curve.