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Liu Cixin's War of the Worlds (2019)

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Re: Liu Cixin's War of the Worlds (2019)

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Post by jnovek »

mvdtnz wrote: post #7
jnovek wrote: post #6

I just finished Deaths End this morning so I'm experiencing that ponderous glow that you get after reading something thought provoking. Without going into spoilers, Death's End makes everything so... huge. It really made me feel tiny in our universe. These are good books with some flaws. You should read them.

I absolutely loved the whole series. I have never been as disappointed at a screen adaptation as I was at the netflix show. I couldn't get past episode 2. Terrible.

Same here, I've watched to episode 4 (the scene with the boat is in episode 5 and I just didn't want to watch that on a screen).

I can understand the desire to humanize the characters for the show, but the characters feel like a CW teen drama. I don't mind that they added some drama, but the drama they added was bad.

Re: Liu Cixin's War of the Worlds (2019)

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Post by m3kw9 »

jnovek wrote: post #6

I just finished Deaths End this morning so I'm experiencing that ponderous glow that you get after reading something thought provoking. Without going into spoilers, Death's End makes everything so... huge. It really made me feel tiny in our universe. These are good books with some flaws. You should read them.

Every book ever has flaws

Re: Liu Cixin's War of the Worlds (2019)

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Post by jnovek »

perihelions wrote: post #9
mvdtnz wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I absolutely loved the whole series. I have never been as disappointed at a screen adaptation as I was at the netflix show. I couldn't get past episode 2. Terrible.

You haven't watched many Netflix adaptations! If the sensation of being banished from 10-dimensional cosmological heavens down into dead 3-dimensional purgatories could be meaningfully be experienced by humans, that ineffable tragedy, it would be the sensation of being forced to watch the Netflix flattening of a book you once dearly enjoyed.

"If the sensation of being banished from 10-dimensional cosmological heavens down into dead 3-dimensional purgatories..."

Ahem, spoilers. :-)

You made me laugh. I understand this reference as of about 14 hours ago.

Re: Liu Cixin's War of the Worlds (2019)

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Post by m3kw9 »

tb1989 wrote: post #5

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If you can’t separate the books world and the person, then you are just gonna make everything hard to be enjoyed. Every person has issues either you know it or not, say your favourite writer, you just haven’t found out a secret that pisses you off about them yet.

Re: Liu Cixin's War of the Worlds (2019)

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Post by davely »

mvdtnz wrote: post #7
jnovek wrote: post #6

I just finished Deaths End this morning so I'm experiencing that ponderous glow that you get after reading something thought provoking. Without going into spoilers, Death's End makes everything so... huge. It really made me feel tiny in our universe. These are good books with some flaws. You should read them.

I absolutely loved the whole series. I have never been as disappointed at a screen adaptation as I was at the netflix show. I couldn't get past episode 2. Terrible.

I was so excited for the show I went back and binge read all 3 books over the month of March. I really enjoyed them!

…I feel like the show is so convoluted and confusing (by design, I understand they’re trying to have this sense of mystery) that someone who hasn’t read the books would be totally lost.

I’m still watching, but I had higher hopes for it.

Re: Liu Cixin's War of the Worlds (2019)

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Post by fransje26 »

tb1989 wrote: post #5

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> To overuse the word "concentration camp" is to disrespect the tragic dead of World War II.

What? No. Not at all.

The exploitation and killing of prisoners in concentration camps predates WW2, and the use of "concentration camps" to describe those camps is fully appropriate. From the killing of the Boers by the British, to the genocide of Armenians by the Turks, to the killing of undesired by the Germans, to the forced internment, "re-education" and sterilization of Uyghurs by the Chinese.

Re: Liu Cixin's War of the Worlds (2019)

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Post by jnsaff2 »

perihelions wrote: post #9
mvdtnz wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I absolutely loved the whole series. I have never been as disappointed at a screen adaptation as I was at the netflix show. I couldn't get past episode 2. Terrible.

You haven't watched many Netflix adaptations! If the sensation of being banished from 10-dimensional cosmological heavens down into dead 3-dimensional purgatories could be meaningfully be experienced by humans, that ineffable tragedy, it would be the sensation of being forced to watch the Netflix flattening of a book you once dearly enjoyed.

One could argue that your TV screen is 2-dimensional.

Re: Liu Cixin's War of the Worlds (2019)

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Post by gamepsys »

tb1989 wrote: post #5

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> Because his writing style is so poor and very wordy, there are almost no golden sentences

Did you read it in Chinese? I have only read English translations of his work, and I assumed the style issues were more related to the translation than anything else.

Re: Liu Cixin's War of the Worlds (2019)

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Post by justinhj »

mvdtnz wrote: post #7
jnovek wrote: post #6

I just finished Deaths End this morning so I'm experiencing that ponderous glow that you get after reading something thought provoking. Without going into spoilers, Death's End makes everything so... huge. It really made me feel tiny in our universe. These are good books with some flaws. You should read them.

I absolutely loved the whole series. I have never been as disappointed at a screen adaptation as I was at the netflix show. I couldn't get past episode 2. Terrible.

Fully enjoyed both the books and Netflix adaptation. In fact I am surprised how well they made an entertaining tv series of this material that will appeal to a wide audience. My only criticism would be how fast they went through the story.

Re: Liu Cixin's War of the Worlds (2019)

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Post by FrustratedMonky »

jnovek wrote: post #11
mvdtnz wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I absolutely loved the whole series. I have never been as disappointed at a screen adaptation as I was at the netflix show. I couldn't get past episode 2. Terrible.

Same here, I've watched to episode 4 (the scene with the boat is in episode 5 and I just didn't want to watch that on a screen). I can understand the desire to humanize the characters for the show, but the characters feel like a CW teen drama. I don't mind that they added some drama, but the drama they added was bad .

Maybe expectations were too high? I thought it followed book 1 pretty closely.

As book-movie translation go. I thought the choices they made in 3-Body were better than the tradeoffs in Dune 2.

But I liked Dune 2 as a movie, but leaving out the Spacing Guild, and how the Water of Life can poison Sand Worms, and they change to the Atomics. It changed entire dynamic on the stand off with Emperor. And leaving out Alia.

The only problem with 3-Body, is for season 1, they did stuff too much into it from Book 2, not that it was bad to do it, but maybe needed 1-2 more episodes, instead if felt rushed.

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