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GPT-4.5 or GPT-5 being tested on LMSYS?

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Which episode of Gilligan’s Island was about mind reading? [1]

"The episode of Gilligan's Island that features mind reading is titled "The Friendly Physician." It is the 28th episode of the second season, originally aired on March 24, 1966. [...]"

Still no luck with that one.

1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40139501

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#23
Impressive! We’re approaching the “our model can rewrite stolen content word for word” territory.

The better it gets the more people will get frustrated that they get less website visitors to their content and instead ChatGPT is swallowing them whole.

Interesting to think about tho!

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post #20
post #13

Still gives incorrect code to the following prompt - the description is correct but not the code. I have yet to find one LLM that gives the correct code. This is the prompt: “Write C code to calculate the sum of matrix elements below the secondary diagonal.“

This feels as much likely to be a prompt problem as a 'bad answer from a model' problem.

I wouldn't know what "secondary diagonal" refers to myself, but if the model correctly describes the problem and then follows it up with incorrect code I would still say that's an issue with the model not the prompt.

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#27
All of the facts based queries I have asked so far have not been 100% correct on any LLM including this one.

Here are some examples of the worst performing:

"What platform front rack fits a Stromer ST2?": The answer is the Racktime ViewIt. Nothing, not even Google, seems to get this one. Discord gives the right answer.

"Is there a pre-existing controller or utility to migrate persistent volume claims from one storage class to another in the open source Kubernetes ecosystem?" It said no (wrong) and then provided another approach that partially used Velero that wasn't correct, if you know what Velero does in those particular commands. Discord communities give the right answer, such as `pvmigrate` (https://github.com/replicatedhq/pvmigrate).

Here is something more representative:

"What alternatives to Gusto would you recommend? Create a table showing the payroll provider in a column, the base monthly subscription price, the monthly price per employee, and the total cost for 3 full time employees, considering that the employees live in two different states" This and Claude do a good job, but do not correctly retrieve all the prices. Claude omitted Square Payroll, which is really the "right answer" to this query. Google would never be able to answer this "correctly." Discord gives the right answer.

The takeaway is pretty obvious right? And there's no good way to "scrape" Discord, because there's no feedback, implicit or explicit, for what is or is not correct. So to a certain extend their data gathering approach - paying Kenyans - is sort of fucked for these long tail questions. Another interpretation is that for many queries, people are asking the wrong places.

Re: GPT-4.5 or GPT-5 being tested on LMSYS?

#29
Sadly, still fails my test of reproducing code that implements my thesis (Dropback Continuous Pruning), which I used because it's vaguely complicated and something I know very well. It totally misses the core concept of using an PRNG and instead implements some pretty standard pruning+regrowth algo.

Re: GPT-4.5 or GPT-5 being tested on LMSYS?

#30

What's interesting it seems to also edit text in between for me, not just add text at the end.

I'm seeing this as well. I don't quite understand how it's doing that in the context of LLMs to date being a "next token predictor". It is writing code, then adding more code in the middle.
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