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What's Going on with ‘Nonplussed’? (2017)

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Re: What's Going on with ‘Nonplussed’? (2017)

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post #23

First they came for literally and I did nothing because I wasn't a pedant. Then they came for nonplussed and I still did nothing because I'm still not a pedant. I sure hope they don't come for pedant next.

The word you really need to worry about is “nonpedant.”

Re: What's Going on with ‘Nonplussed’? (2017)

#152
post #27

As a Brit, I don't think I've ever encountered the latter meaning. I've only ever heard it to mean 'perplexed'.

As an American, I assume without evidence that it's way more common in British English, because over here it feels like an exotic word that people only pull out to be semi-fancy, like "whom".

like an exotic word that people only pull out to be semi-fancy, like "whom"

Semi-fancy? Man, that's a pretty low bar for fifty-cent words. I use it so I sound like I actually went to school and paid attention. If those with whom I speak find basic grammar fancy, that's on them.

Re: What's Going on with ‘Nonplussed’? (2017)

#153

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Wait… do Americans not say whom?

Not much. Americans use "whom" some, especially in formal writing and/or speech, but colloquially "who" is much more common. For example, as an American a sentence like "Whom did you invite to the party?" sounds a bit stilted and formal to me.

> as an American a sentence like "Whom did you invite to the party?" sounds a bit stilted and formal to me

It would be fair to call this ungrammatical in American English.

But whom does survive in fronted prepositional phrases ("the person for whom this item was obtained..."). It's dead in prepositional phrases that haven't been fronted just like it's dead everywhere else.

Something vaguely similar happened in Spanish, where there is a special pronoun case that can only be used with the preposition con ("with"). There, the special case descends from, interestingly enough, the same preposition, Latin cum, instead of from the Latin case system. But the phenomenon ends up being the same.

Re: What's Going on with ‘Nonplussed’? (2017)

#154
post #20

The word is skunked at this point. Using it guarantees that readers are going to have to pause and refer to the context, and depending on the context it may not even be possible to confidently disambiguate. Luckily both meanings have ample synonyms.

I think it should join "billion" in never being ever used again due to its ambiguity.

Re: What's Going on with ‘Nonplussed’? (2017)

#156

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Begging the question, he will continue to do nothing.

Irregardless of begging, they should of been less of a lose cannon with they’re word’s

For all intensive purposes.

Re: What's Going on with ‘Nonplussed’? (2017)

#157

Merriam-Webster brags in TFA about their descriptivist reputation; and indeed, they are thw arch-descriptivists. But I'm not aware of any contemporary publisher of dictionaries that doesn't take a descriptivist stance. This places pendants like me at a serious disadvantage; I can't rely on a dictionary to help me win arguments about correct usage. "Nonplussed" is like "disgruntled"; you can't be plussed, and you can'…

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Re: What's Going on with ‘Nonplussed’? (2017)

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Singular "they" was one I resisted for a long time, but it's a lost cause. I've had almost the opposite experience from you. I'd long embraced it as the correct word to use when referring to a person of unknown gender or to a hypothetical individual, but having to use it regarding real people caused me problems. When my wife became coworkers with a non-binary person and its usage came up every few days, the better I…

I purposefully and unapologetically try to refer to everyone as "they" these days. A person's gender is rarely relevant (and can often lead to stereotyping), so I see no need to mention it every time I refer to them. And it makes life a lot simpler.

While not strictly improper, this feels needlessly confrontational and pushing of an ideology. You might find you ruffle more feathers than you think by doing this.

Re: What's Going on with ‘Nonplussed’? (2017)

#160

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The "unimpressed" meaning is the primary meaning I've heard and I'm not young. They're hand-wringing over a phenomenon as old as I am, it seems.

However the article explicitly says "we’d just like to give you fair warning in case our descriptivist nature causes us to take action" which implies that they hadn't actually taken added that meaning at the time of writing.

In case the word "plussed" came into the dictionary meaning "impressed"
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