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Atomic nucleus excited with laser: A breakthrough after decades

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Re: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: A breakthrough after decades

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> It could be used, for example, to build an nuclear clock that could measure time more precisely than the best atomic clocks available today. Are today's atomic clocks really so imprecise? Without further explanation of this, it reminds me of this comic (which is alas showing its age both by mentioning flash, and by implying that 1024 is already a uselessly high number of cpus to support): https://xkcd.com/619/

Intel GPU joke in the alt text, truly timeless.

Re: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: A breakthrough after decades

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What does "exciting a nucleus" mean?

Applying energy to lift its electrons across a band gap. In this case, applying 8.35574 electron volts.

I thought this was an excitation of the state of the nucleus rather than that of electrons.

Re: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: A breakthrough after decades

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post #10

What does "exciting a nucleus" mean?

Thorium-229 has two energy states. A ground state, and an excited isometric state. The laser is used to transition the nucleus from the ground state to the excited isometric state.

Isometric? Like, is the nucleus gaining a virtual proton or something?

Re: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: A breakthrough after decades

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Now how the heck do you generate ~148.38nm light with a narrow linewidth? Their approach using four-wave mixing inherently results in short pulses.

.. and given that it decays through gamma emission, does this mean we could now build an optically pumped gamma ray laser?

Re: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: A breakthrough after decades

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The measurement was already confirmed by a different group: https://arxiv.org/abs/2404.12311 This is important since impurities in the crystals used lead to all kinds of fluorescence that could be mistaken for a signal from the Thorium ions. Now two groups have seen exactly the same signal in different Thorium-doped crystals which is very covincing that they have found the actual nuclear transition.

I went looking for an arXiv link for this paper and found the one you linked.

Kind of weird that this new paper is only on the group's website [1] and not on the arXiv.

[1]: https://www.tuwien.at/fileadmin/Assets/tu-wien/News/2024/Tho...

Re: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: A breakthrough after decades

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post #10

What does "exciting a nucleus" mean?

Applying energy to lift its electrons across a band gap. In this case, applying 8.35574 electron volts.

We know how to do this and have observed this tons of times at this point. This would not be novel in any way. This is about exciting the nucleus which is completely different.

Re: Atomic nucleus excited with laser: A breakthrough after decades

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Applying energy to lift its electrons across a band gap. In this case, applying 8.35574 electron volts.

I thought this was an excitation of the state of the nucleus rather than that of electrons.

You’re right, parent read too fast
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