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How is moving all your labor offshores at all reasonable? It seems like this should just be straight up an illegal practice if the talent is plentiful in your own country. This is just accelerating the demise of your own country.
Globalism at its worst.
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Yes it’s common. At Google and across America. When Google did its massive 12k person layoff they moved a lot of those roles to places like India. They had another tranche of layoffs that were “delayed exit” to train those Indian employees.
You can call me bigoted or racist, I don't care. The fact is with moving technical roles to India quality plummets. But I can totally see how in some beancounter's narrow mind this makes perfect sense.
Of course your assessment of those who can literally steal your job from under you is fair and unbiased
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Moving things to india sounds like a great idea, except the 13-15 hour difference in communication. it's all well and good until you're in Cupertino and taking an 11:30 pm call because they have 0 hours of overlap... guess you can force them to work US hours, but that goes to culture as well. Are they trying to show that India's workplace is more compliant and they'll just do what corp types will tell them?
I worked at Amazon for almost 10 years and I hate, repeat hate working with India teams. Their quality is subpar, period. No other way to put it
1 - I think the move to Germany is a tentative one - they could not pack all and move it to India thoroughly like IBM did, because in a election year this can create waves in the public opinion and shift votes against MAANG/FAANG corporations sponsored globalist politicians.
2 - It's only but the beginning. German and European staff have a better STEM formation in real universities (for now) but when Alphabet will have to face work unions in Germany they will pack again and go India, Burundi or whatever else.
3 - I see that some of the most relevant FOSS projects core programmers are getting the axe in this move. I would like to elaborate on this since open source now fosters autopilot, gemini, that are perceived by the big companies as a way to lay off or to pay peanuts the real software developers that created and fostered the FOSS movement.
4 - The people left in the cold were not saved by their putting the pronouns in their bio, nor by abiding to cambodian-style woke ideologies. They licked but when they were not needed anymore they were dumped, with their mouth full of it.
5 - Flutter is DEAD. No matter how you put it.
6 - Since the Agile mindset and antipatterns were adopted, it seems that large companies are self-eating thinking they can do keeping management only. Meetings and fake presentations of systems that deliver 5% of what stated. Anything productive is seen as debris of demon. Pol-Pot style, if you have any competence you are an enemy of the people and of the DEI mantra.
7 - People with experience in this and willing to react to this trend are scared to talk and isolated. Not being able to express dissent while seeing the whole productive sector of the western world being dismembered, vilified, destroyed.
8 - Large companies are like Zelensky, they need stupid cannon fodder that follows the orders and if not can be replaced in zero time with even more submitted servants. If you are OK with this I feel no empathy towards you and your peers. These people saw google implement sjw ideologies in any products, staid silent, and now they are not useful anymore to the system they so eagerly and willingly contributed to enthrone.
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I'm guessing "Meta, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, and Google" but with a "_" for some reason
Why is Netflix still included? They should be kicked out, I haven’t heard anything tech about the, for years now. Then we can go with Meta Apple Google Amazon, or MAGA for short. Ok, not a good look that one.
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How hard is it? As in - they have to let you work for the duration of the notice period hard? Honest question.
As in, they would have to prove, potentially in court, that the layoff was absolutely necessary to actually be about to do it, plus pay an undefined fair severance amount (that people mostly seem to accept as 0.5 * monthly salary * years of tenure at the company), on top of the on-average 3 month notice period, which most companies will give as garden leave in order to not reduce morale even further. If you can't pro…
How about flutter/dart teams? Are they safe?
Why not just retrain the python team to another language? I mean, software engineers are not really language specific, they can learn other languages if needed.
They have three months to find new roles/teams. Their employment only ends if they can't.