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What is a MAAN_
I'm guessing "Meta, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, and Google" but with a "_" for some reason
Then we can go with Meta Apple Google Amazon, or MAGA for short. Ok, not a good look that one.
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Yes it’s common. At Google and across America. When Google did its massive 12k person layoff they moved a lot of those roles to places like India. They had another tranche of layoffs that were “delayed exit” to train those Indian employees.
You can call me bigoted or racist, I don't care. The fact is with moving technical roles to India quality plummets. But I can totally see how in some beancounter's narrow mind this makes perfect sense.
You comment isn't wrong. I've observed the same thing but only when things get outsourced to low cost consulting shops. If Google pays decently in India (which I think they do), they'll get much better devs. There's a pretty strong start-up ecosystem and dev culture but as with everything you need to pay good $$ - as in not 10% of bay area pay but closer to 60-70% of it to attract top talent.
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How do you "protect" a job?
Tax breaks for hiring citizens. Tariffs for hiring non citizens. Force companies to follow all the same employment laws for employees and contractors in other countries.
Google is an AI first company Google's future is strictly tied to its AI products All AI is written with Python. Google lays off all Python team. Segmentation fault
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You know, it makes me wonder how hard it would be to use this divide to actually move to the EU and get residency. Then again, with so many countries having to beef up military spending and facing economic headwinds you really have to question whether all the social / quality of life programs that make europe more livable than the US would be sustainable long term either. Who knows maybe in 30 years Americans ultimat…
If you work a white-collar job the US standard of living is substantially higher. If you're a laborer the opposite is true but you also probably have a harder time getting in to Europe in the first place.
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I'm guessing "Meta, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, and Google" but with a "_" for some reason
Why is Netflix still included? They should be kicked out, I haven’t heard anything tech about the, for years now. Then we can go with Meta Apple Google Amazon, or MAGA for short. Ok, not a good look that one.
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I guess Instagram, Threads, Reddit, Uber, and Spotify aren’t serious long term applications.
I'm not sure i'd cite Reddit as a positive example of such a thing.
i got caught up in this :( really sad about the whole thing; this was by far the best job i've had in my 20-year career (including other teams at google), and i do not know if i will ever have another one as good. we were a chronically understaffed team supporting a large part of the python ecosystem at google, and we did some amazing work over the years.
Seriously, what is the reason for this move? The language is so good and well known that they don't need a dedicated team to do these activites you talked about? Or are they hiring cheaper workers? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40171125#40176438 I don't understand such a move, because all AI is developed in pytorch. I think that google uses JAX and pytorch.
Google is an AI first company Google's future is strictly tied to its AI products All AI is written with Python. Google lays off all Python team. Segmentation fault
People are focusing on verbage and precision, but are missing the point. Having a well-maintained Python tooling is essential for _any_ company who does AI. While smaller companies can get away with open source solutions, for bigger companies it is unavoidable to have teams dedicated to maintaining and supporting Python tooling. This announcement is troubling, and may indicate one of the two: 1) Google is in dire sit…
Google is an AI first company Google's future is strictly tied to its AI products All AI is written with Python. Google lays off all Python team. Segmentation fault
> All AI is written with Python. Only high-level is written in python, low level is Cuda that is a form of C. Also, you would think the first to replace workers with AI would be the AI companies like Google.