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Google made me ruin a perfectly good website (2023)

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Re: Google made me ruin a perfectly good website (2023)

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Post by a_dabbler »

bruce511 wrote: post #111
konstantinua00 wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if Google didn't make site more appealing, Google2 or Google3 or Google4 or SomeOtherCompetitor5 might but the problem is that there are no "2,3,4,5' options - there's only one. And it has no incentive for "good people" to leverage

Ok, theres only one option. But let's imagine you're CEO of option 2. What do you think you might do differently which would make this site, in its original form, appealing to advertise on? Having multiple ad companies doesn't sound like an improvement when the advertising space on offer doesn't seem to be good for advertising. Or to put it another way, do you feel this space does have value, but Google is leaving th…

The new unneeded content doesn't make the site more appealing to advertise on, instead it exists purely to satisfy arbitrary standards set by Adsense. I feel you've missed the point of the article

Re: Google made me ruin a perfectly good website (2023)

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Post by Jiro »

Honestly, the actual Luddite blog looks almost as AI-generated as the actually AI-generated blogspam he added.

>VW told law enforcement they would "not track the vehicle with the abducted child until they received payment to reactivate the tracking device in the stolen Volkswagen," according to the sherrif's office. Perhaps it should be unsurprising from a company that started during the Third Reich and used forced Jewish labor.

Wut?

(Seriously, they're trying to claim that there's some connection between two events that involved the same company but happened around 80 years apart on different continents and people speaking different languages, with an intervening war? Not to mention that the linked article says that Volkswagen has a process for cooperating with law enforcement and that this was just a mistake. And I do not believe they are lying about having such a process.)

Re: Google made me ruin a perfectly good website (2023)

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Post by jokethrowaway »

madcoderme wrote: post #157

> I looked into a half-dozen or so alternatives, but all the other companies were either simply Google ads re-sellers, which is an ecosystem I don't quite understand, or were extremely sketchy, and had reviews complaining about how they trick people into downloading malware and such. This is so true. I have tried to monetize my tools with ads quite a few times before, and the only way was to use Adsense. It's actuall…

Funnily enough some Google resellers are paying more than Google.

I have no clue how, they must be burning investors' money

Re: Google made me ruin a perfectly good website (2023)

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Post by samdung »

The internet is an SEO landfill (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20256764)

This is a related discussion from about 5 years ago about how SEO is ruining search. Google still seems to have a thick enough skin and a monopoly to get away with crap even after so many years of ruining search.

Re: Google made me ruin a perfectly good website (2023)

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Post by navane »

On one hand I totally agree with the Luddite.

On the other hand, why do we need Google for recipes. Everyone eats multiple times per day. You only need to host text, really. How come the world hasn't come together to create this. How can the world ever come together if we can't even create this.

Re: Google made me ruin a perfectly good website (2023)

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Post by zrobotics »

samdung wrote: post #165

The internet is an SEO landfill ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20256764 ) This is a related discussion from about 5 years ago about how SEO is ruining search. Google still seems to have a thick enough skin and a monopoly to get away with crap even after so many years of ruining search.

Calling it a Landfill seems accurate. I just searched (on DDG) for the tap size for a 5/16-24 bolt. I got garbage like this:https://shuntool.com/article/what-size-drill-os-used-for-a-5...

This isn't even the worst example, since it does at least have the correct info buried amongst tons of Ai generated garbage, but I can't use this for reference, since it tells me 4 different drill sizes. I've had to switch back to a paper copy of the machinist's handbook, since I can't trust the internet to give me accurate information anymore. 10 years ago, I could easily search for the clearance hole for a 10-24 fastener, now I get AI junk that I can't trust.

How have we regressed to the point that I'm better off using a paper book than online charts for things that don't change?

Re: Google made me ruin a perfectly good website (2023)

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Post by IshKebab »

navane wrote: post #166

On one hand I totally agree with the Luddite. On the other hand, why do we need Google for recipes. Everyone eats multiple times per day. You only need to host text, really. How come the world hasn't come together to create this. How can the world ever come together if we can't even create this.

I don't really get why people have problems using Google for recipes anyway. Just search for recipes on BBC good food. They have recipes for everything, lots of ratings from real people; the highly rated recipes are really good.

Here's an example:

https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/strawberry-cheesecake-4-...

I've literally never needed another recipe site.

Re: Google made me ruin a perfectly good website (2023)

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Post by noobermin »

samdung wrote: post #165

The internet is an SEO landfill ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20256764 ) This is a related discussion from about 5 years ago about how SEO is ruining search. Google still seems to have a thick enough skin and a monopoly to get away with crap even after so many years of ruining search.

Mind you this is then before the recent article that alleges Ben Gomes was pushed out of Google[0]. This was my feeling regarding that post, that search had been getting worse from before 2019.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40133976

Re: Google made me ruin a perfectly good website (2023)

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Post by SushiHippie »

navane wrote: post #166

On one hand I totally agree with the Luddite. On the other hand, why do we need Google for recipes. Everyone eats multiple times per day. You only need to host text, really. How come the world hasn't come together to create this. How can the world ever come together if we can't even create this.

https://github.com/lukesmithxyz/based.cooking
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