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Re: Google lays off its Python team

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Post by banish-m4 »

zem wrote: post #148
banish-m4 wrote: post #143

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Code mods are fun. Were they gated by human PR reviews, perhaps in batches, or applied without review?

yes, gated by human reviews based on who owned the code, unless they were completely trivial and then were gated by a single global approver. there were always humans in the loop though.

Ah makes sense. At another MAANG, there was a code mod template job with a half dozen subvariants. I recall using a variant that supported ripgrep piping to sed -i for a simple replacement mod. There were jobs properties controlling how many mods per diff and whether it needed human approval or not. I think I did one batched by 1000 running once every 2 weeks to keep noise down.

Re: Google lays off its Python team

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Post by jope12 »

UncleMeat wrote: post #116
fargle wrote: post #29

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agree. i can tell it was a bad day for the author and it sucks. but it's irritating to sit there and blame the exact system and company that gave him the exceptional job and pay in the first place. everyone who works in FAANG, if you are drawing an enormous salary and bonus, compared to the average guy, i hope you realize the how fortunate you are. i hope you are putting away, saving, investing, at least 1/3 or 1/2 o…

People who work at Google are indeed very fortunate. We are paid large sums of money. I feel like I've found a pot of gold and give significant portions of my income away to the less fortunate directly because I feel that so much of my pay is based on luck. However, Google employees only capture a fraction of Google's profits. Google made twenty five billion dollars in profit in Q1. Annualized that is 100b. Google ha…

>If Google was really existing in service of its employees rather than its investors

But then it wouldn't make that kind of profit.

Re: Google lays off its Python team

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Post by FreakLegion »

zem wrote: post #135
UncleMeat wrote: post #118

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A visa is not permanent, but it might as well be for Indian and Chinese citizens. The green card lottery can easily take decades. You could have gone to college, got married, had kids, bought a house, and maybe even see your kids graduate college and have kids of their own before you get guaranteed residency in the US. "Oh you should be happy you had a good thing going" is not something I'd find especially comforting…

thanks, glad someone understands! (i'm indian and stuck in just that situation)

I have a bunch of open Python roles. Like, a could-hire-your-entire-team bunch. Which doesn't mean I can afford you! But happy to chat and see what's possible.

If you're physically within the U.S. (just a location, not a citizenship/green card restriction) feel free to reach out, contact info is in my profile.

Re: Google lays off its Python team

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Post by throwaway5959 »

madaxe_again wrote: post #114
fragmede wrote: post #102

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That really doesn't jive with this description of how much they were doing. Let me guess, this mythical two person team could also build Twitter and Uber over a weekend? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40176338

Your point notwithstanding, Twitter was originally built by a two person team over couple of weeks.

They built a prototype (probably in Rails, lol). Thousands of people built Twitter, including many who have never written a line of code in their lives.

Re: Google lays off its Python team

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Post by throwaway5959 »

bndr wrote: post #149

Why not just retrain the python team to another language? I mean, software engineers are not really language specific, they can learn other languages if needed.

They were maintaining Python itself, likely very well (as one would expect) compensated. It’d be a waste to have these devs do product development.

Re: Google lays off its Python team

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Post by UncleMeat »

jope12 wrote: post #152
UncleMeat wrote: post #116

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People who work at Google are indeed very fortunate. We are paid large sums of money. I feel like I've found a pot of gold and give significant portions of my income away to the less fortunate directly because I feel that so much of my pay is based on luck. However, Google employees only capture a fraction of Google's profits. Google made twenty five billion dollars in profit in Q1. Annualized that is 100b. Google ha…

>If Google was really existing in service of its employees rather than its investors But then it wouldn't make that kind of profit.

Why wouldn't it?

Re: Google lays off its Python team

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Post by infamouscow »

JSDevOps wrote: post #93
trickleup wrote: post #90

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mihai is an ml engineer who works at google.

The post could have been made clearer. And also I’m surprised but they are good at scale.

Why, exactly. Do you not have the ability to take information and draw conclusions on your own -- like a functionally mindless automaton lacking a frontal lobe?

Re: Google lays off its Python team

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Post by mihai_maruseac »

aortega wrote: post #146
mihai_maruseac wrote: post #66

Google is an AI first company Google's future is strictly tied to its AI products All AI is written with Python. Google lays off all Python team. Segmentation fault

> All AI is written with Python. Only high-level is written in python, low level is Cuda that is a form of C. Also, you would think the first to replace workers with AI would be the AI companies like Google.

Yes, and not to repeat myself: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40182940
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