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Creatine found to improve cognitive performance during sleep deprivation

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Re: Creatine found to improve cognitive performance during sleep deprivation

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Post by tylerflick »

pitched wrote: post #19
wtk wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it just creatine? I've had some good results - improved mental clarity, just to discover it has taurine added.

It is pure Creatine. This is definitely an above average result from the supplement, from what I understand. Probably from some sort of deficiency in the long chain of reactions that make it. My bet is that the sleep deficiency measured in this study is also impacting when of the reactions too. I wish it was easier to measure these things to actually know for sure.

Be careful with it, as too much Creatine can put extra stress on your kidneys.

Re: Creatine found to improve cognitive performance during sleep deprivation

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Post by paulddraper »

HuShifang wrote: post #18
spr-alex wrote: post #15

Other consumables from meat with notable effects here are carnosine and taurine. Carnosine in particular helps with janitorial processes that happen during sleep.

I'd just add, these three can be obtained from veg-friendly supplements too.

Yes, AFAIK all three are reasonable simple molecules with synthetic formulations.

Re: Creatine found to improve cognitive performance during sleep deprivation

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Post by tomjakubowski »

TeaBrain wrote: post #10
blacksmith_tb wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

5mg? That seems like a very small dose... the linked study says they administered 0.35g per kg - for me that'd be about 24g, which seems like a lot, though I guess people who are lifting weights might do that much daily for a week or two and then switch down to 5g/day.

They have to mean 5g, as does the guy who responded to you who seems to have made the same mistake. The recommended dose on most creatine containers is around 5 grams. 5mg is so little that it would be impossible to measure without a mg scale.

The last sentence there is an impressively neat tautology. I love it

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Post by HeatrayEnjoyer »

felsokning wrote: post #14

https://archive.is/TvpRr Although, I could see this being beneficial in fields where labour is scarce (e.g.: the medical field), I fear it could lend towards a "sleep deprivation is okay, just take creatine" rationale in other fields.

Why does medical get an exception for poor treatment

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Post by pcthrowaway »

spr-alex wrote: post #15

Other consumables from meat with notable effects here are carnosine and taurine. Carnosine in particular helps with janitorial processes that happen during sleep.

I think Choline belongs in that list also.

The difficulty of getting these on a vegan diet is the reason I started consuming bivalves

Re: Creatine found to improve cognitive performance during sleep deprivation

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Post by kadoban »

HeatrayEnjoyer wrote: post #26
felsokning wrote: post #14

https://archive.is/TvpRr Although, I could see this being beneficial in fields where labour is scarce (e.g.: the medical field), I fear it could lend towards a "sleep deprivation is okay, just take creatine" rationale in other fields.

Why does medical get an exception for poor treatment

It shouldn't in general, but there are restricted cases where it's literally life and death and difficult/impossible to plan around.
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