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Open Sourcing DOS 4
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Re: Open Sourcing DOS 4
#302It looks like "brain damaged" was the developer's go-to insult when frustrated :D 2024-04-25 19:35 ~/sort/dl/MS-DOS % grep -nri 'brain[ -]damage' . ./v4.0/src/DOS/STRIN.ASM:70:; Brain-damaged TP ignored ^F in case his BIOS did not flush the ./v4.0/src/DOS/PATH.ASM:24:; MZ 19 Jan 1983 Brain damaged applications rely on success ./v4.0/src/DOS/FCBIO.ASM:28:; MZ 15 Dec 1983 Brain damaged programs close FCBs multiple ./v4…
Super cool to see MZ initials, which are for Mark Zbikowski. They are still to this day at the beginning of every Windows executable/PE file.
I can't recall where exactly but there's something similar in systemd, some files have LPKS... in them, which are most probably poettering, sievers and others early devs initials.
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#303Earlier quoted context omitted.
Early Microsoft seemed to be a pretty hardcore environment. I guess many employees came and got burned out in a few years.
And/or they cashed out $TEXAS in stock and rode off into the sunset.
Yeah man. Meaningful work and loads of cash after IPO. I have always wished to work in such an environment.
Re: Open Sourcing DOS 4
#304Holy cow, this is huge! DOS 1.x and 2.x are too old to run a lot of vintage DOS software, but 4.x would run just about everything.
No, you are thinking of 4.01 this is 4.0. Those are very different operating systems, this is DOS 3.2 + later abandoned very crude multitasking features. Roughly. And this matters because DOS 3.3 was a milestone. 4.01 comes from 4.00 which has nothing to do with 4.0 (yay for versions).
This 4.0 code contains references to 4.00, though: https://github.com/microsoft/MS-DOS/blob/main/v4.0/src/BOOT/...
Re: Open Sourcing DOS 4
#305Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tangent, but Windows NT had a POSIX subsystem for a while.
Kind of for a very long while. You then had a descendant SFU from some SP of NT4 to XP / Server 2003, then a further one SUA until Windows 8 / Server 2012. With some code flowing between various companies. I think SFU still used the Posix NT subsystem core. Probably also SUA, although I'm less sure. Not really the case WSL1, though (although probably the core NT kernel was more ready to support it, thanks to its hist…
I knew about SFU, Services For Unix. What was SUA?
Re: Open Sourcing DOS 4
#306Is it only another 10 years until we get an MIT-licensed Windows 95 source code?
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#307Earlier quoted context omitted.
> MS-DOS wasn’t yet localized to Finnish in 1989 That's genuinely something today I appreciate but when putting the 10th floppy in to update windows3.x. relative these days! > it feels a bit sad that today’s kids can’t get the same feeling that the computer Can't agree more. trying to get my cousins and nephews interested is in their term "Not important"
I really loved the rare cases of software publishers who put the serial number for the software on disk two instead of disk one so you didn’t have to eject the disk you were working from to do the install.
I still remember OS/2 2.0. Gawd what an awful first time experience with an OS.
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#308Earlier quoted context omitted.
For some insight, look how people are combing for curse words/ devs making jokes about people being brain damaged etc. There is no upside for the company, and all that has to happen is some unsavory politically incorrect joke to get missed from sanitization and the are on the cancelled chopping block.
I think I lost it when they suggested we stop using the term 'sanity check' or 'sane defaults' because they might offend, well, brain damaged people. I am close to writing a browser extension that does a find and replace to reverse change these imposed, humourless, coddled changes.
> I am close to writing a browser extension that does a find and replace to reverse change these imposed, humourless, coddled changes.
I will be your first paying customer
Re: Open Sourcing DOS 4
#309It looks like "brain damaged" was the developer's go-to insult when frustrated :D 2024-04-25 19:35 ~/sort/dl/MS-DOS % grep -nri 'brain[ -]damage' . ./v4.0/src/DOS/STRIN.ASM:70:; Brain-damaged TP ignored ^F in case his BIOS did not flush the ./v4.0/src/DOS/PATH.ASM:24:; MZ 19 Jan 1983 Brain damaged applications rely on success ./v4.0/src/DOS/FCBIO.ASM:28:; MZ 15 Dec 1983 Brain damaged programs close FCBs multiple ./v4…
Super cool to see MZ initials, which are for Mark Zbikowski. They are still to this day at the beginning of every Windows executable/PE file.
> Super cool to see MZ initials, which are for Mark Zbikowski. They are still to this day at the beginning of every Windows executable/PE file.
Another is "PK" as found in the header of ordinary .zip files, after its creator Phil Katz (RIP).
Re: Open Sourcing DOS 4
#310Is there anything useful that isn't already implemented in FreeDOS?
It's more useful from a historical context. For the retro community who plays games and creates/uses tools for the hardware of this era, many appreciate having real period correct DOS over FreeDOS, even though the latter is more featureful. IMO FreeDOS is better for a DOS-like OS for modern systems and less useful for retro hardware.