Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, it's supposed to be injecting bits of your own body. But when the place doesn't even own an autoclave and reuses disposable equipment, I suppose you get what you pay for.
> you get what you pay for that's not always the case -- there are plenty of places where the prices are rocket-level but services dismal you can hide a lot using marketing...
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
They also prescribe steroids to boost your immune system when you have nasty infections, so it's not cut and dried that "steroids = all downside and stupidity." Unless you want to insist modern medicine has deep flaws and needs a major overhaul. Good luck getting taken seriously with such opinions.
I was of the impression that when talking about stupid things people do to themselves, it did not specifically need to be said that I am talking about anabolic steroid abuse without a prescription, for the purpose of performance enhancement. No need to strawman my comment
There is no clear cut, bright line between life and health. The body doesn't care if you took steroids with a prescription or without one.
As noted in another comment, Arnold Schwarzenegger has a heart condition. I have read it might have killed him at a young age if he hadn't been a devoted fitness nut.
He admits to using steroids. He's still alive.
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#53The silver lining is that they are lucky to have contracted HIV rather than some of the nastier stuff. There are plenty of worse reality checks.
How manageable is HIV these days?
Even in larger cities it is quite rare to see patients with full-blown AIDS - and the few times that happens, it comes down to:
- Severe drug addiction and (often combined with) mental illness that results in the patient not being able to follow the drug regiment. This is the main reason.
- Religious reasons, homeopathy, etc. The patient believes they can prey the illness away, use alternative medicine, or similar.
- Extreme denial. The patient simply doesn't believe they have HIV, and thus refuse to take medication.
Most places in the western world HIV medication is free, for obvious reasons.
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#54Just a meta-observation on the discourse here. I'm _shocked_ that the discourse on ArsTechnica for this story seems civilized while here on HN it's all (so far) snark.
What kind comments do you hope for for a post like this that has very little to do with what’s normally discussed on HN?
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#55Notice how it's never men doing stupidly risky stuff to try to look young and beautiful. The societal pressure on women to look young and beautiful is ridiculous. And influential women actively promoting such garbage is part of the problem. Men get former Mr. Universe's modeling "eat right and exercise." (Arnold in case you aren't getting the reference.) Women get this kind of crap.
Edit: hmm maybe that is societal pressure in a way
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#56The silver lining is that they are lucky to have contracted HIV rather than some of the nastier stuff. There are plenty of worse reality checks.
How manageable is HIV these days?
I have a manageable disease (not HIV), and one of my biggest (albeit fantasy) gripes is that for better or worse I cannot choose to opt out of society.
I can't live on a desert island. I'll die if i'm ever a castaway regardless of how well packed the island is with coconut trees.
More realistically it means that I can't be away from 'shipping range' for any more than a week or two before supplies dwindle and I meander back to society, having hit the extents of my leash.
This sucks as a sailor. It's actually not manageable with the hobby of sailing long distances, forcing all sorts of compromises that turn the hobby into something different.
So, when someone describes something as manageable, well, it's generic and leaves out so much context as to be worthwhile for only a small feel-good sound-bite. Maybe that person finds it manageable; it's not advice to be applied globally.
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#57Notice how it's never men doing stupidly risky stuff to try to look young and beautiful. The societal pressure on women to look young and beautiful is ridiculous. And influential women actively promoting such garbage is part of the problem. Men get former Mr. Universe's modeling "eat right and exercise." (Arnold in case you aren't getting the reference.) Women get this kind of crap.
It’s not societal pressure women do it do themselves. If a woman looks hot people will try please them for no reason and once they start losing that they cant handle being in a social status of nobody cares/irrelevant Edit: hmm maybe that is societal pressure in a way
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#58Just a meta-observation on the discourse here. I'm _shocked_ that the discourse on ArsTechnica for this story seems civilized while here on HN it's all (so far) snark.
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#59Re: Three women contract HIV from dirty "vampire facials" at unlicensed spa
#60Notice how it's never men doing stupidly risky stuff to try to look young and beautiful. The societal pressure on women to look young and beautiful is ridiculous. And influential women actively promoting such garbage is part of the problem. Men get former Mr. Universe's modeling "eat right and exercise." (Arnold in case you aren't getting the reference.) Women get this kind of crap.
Both toxic masculinity and toxic femininity exist.